Hi, On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Graham Anderson wrote:
On Thursday 10 Nov 2011 15:09:48 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 10. November 2011, 08:42:43 schrieb Ken Schneider - openSUSE:
On 11/10/2011 07:36 AM, Stephan Kulow pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 10. November 2011, 13:16:21 schrieb Graham Anderson:
On Thursday 10 Nov 2011 12:12:43 Carlos E. R. wrote:
I understand that space on the CDs is limited. Could not a method to download the particular language needed from internet be designed, so that the live system uses them?
Or remove some less important items like Gimp instead... why the hell are we dropping languages but keeping the byte hog and (probably not very frequently used by most) Gimp?
How many languages do you use?
It's not a question of how many languages an individual uses but a question of how many languages the community uses.
Not sure why you added a reply-to.
We only have little data, but the last data we have says french IPs make up < 3% of our update traffic. And while I agree that Gimp is not used by most, I would think it's used by more than 3%. But that's just guessing - but someone has to do the guessing in absense of real data.
Someone who wishes to use Gimp will almost certainly be an existing or experienced user, and can easily find it online or with zypper/yast.
Having only two languages on popular installation media potentially alienates/prevents a vast number of users from ever using openSUSE. The *last* thing I ever want to hear is something like: "Oh yeah I tried opensuse but I couldn't even install it in my language... I just installed ubuntu instead."
Gimp isn't essential to adoption or installation, but being able to use your native language? I'd rate that pretty highly on any scale of importance or priority.
My guess as one of the "longest" SUSE users and propagaters too (surely by this also one of the oldest, but I still know a dozen older ones) is: to catch a new user, his own language to see during the first step is much more important than to have all wanted features instantly present during the first move towards linux. Learned from my wife. ;-)) Viele Gruesse Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org) -- Eberhard Moenkeberg Arbeitsgruppe IT-Infrastruktur E-Mail: emoenke@gwdg.de Tel.: +49 (0)551 201-1551 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gesellschaft fuer wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH Goettingen (GWDG) Am Fassberg 11, 37077 Goettingen URL: http://www.gwdg.de E-Mail: gwdg@gwdg.de Tel.: +49 (0)551 201-1510 Fax: +49 (0)551 201-2150 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Prof. Dr. Ramin Yahyapour Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Prof. Dr. Christian Griesinger Sitz der Gesellschaft: Goettingen Registergericht: Goettingen Handelsregister-Nr. B 598 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org