April 2012 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] (pick one): 12.1 is conflicted...(another regression) OR Rationality of current software release process?
by Linda Walsh 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

When I try to run yast2, I get > sudo yast2 Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-law" is owned by uid 5013 instead of uid 0. --- So I think...ok...that's weird, it wants law's kdecache to be owned by root.. ok, I'm game (changed ownership)... Then I go to do a kernel build (another kde using app)...which I usually build as normal user... scripts/kconfig/qconf Kconfig # # using defaults found in arch/x86/configs/x86_64_defconfig # Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-law" is owned by uid 0 instead of uid 5013. Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-law" is owned by uid 0 instead of uid 5013. Error: "/tmp/kde-law" is owned by uid 0 instead of uid 5013. Error: "/tmp/kde-law" is owned by uid 0 instead of uid 5013. Um.... I think yast2 is the one at fault here... It shouldn't expect that /var/tmp/kdecache-law would be owned by other than law!... or is that just silly? This worked on 11.4. I think 12.1 should be declared null and void as far as moving the support dates for previous releases 'forward', since from my own experience, and others, it doesn't seem it was read to be released, yet was because "It was the date". Maybe we should move more toward a linux kernel model -- aim for 3-4 months, but if it isn't ready then, then it won't be shipped until it's quality!.. even if it means a 1-month delay -- and that DOES push the next release out by that amount. It is **impossible** -- i.e not rational, to expect that one can know how much work something will take and fit it to exactly a preset time period. This is a delusion mostly pushed down from marketers and managers who want control over a chaotic process that is -- sorry, becoming increasingly chaotic as the number of software packages grows and the number of new programmers who have no experience enter the field and generate whole knew sets of popular packages with bugs that were fixed in older software 40 years ago. I need to start keeping a log of how many times a "new idea" comes up or a new methodology" comes up that is just a repackaging of a previous --- not that new ideas are impossible, but since most of the people writing software have no software background, they don't know what has been done before, so of course it is new! It's rare that I find a computer science graduate actually doing software engineering these days...which is fine -- humans are very adaptable creatures, but it does mean many of them will re-invent wheels and re-invent the same mistakes that were done a generation ago. There is little "institutional knowledge" that is carried over from generation to generation due to software engineering not being treated like those requiring similar training and operating in fields of similar complexity. Nor are there any standards for who is qualified to write code nor for code quality. It's not like you can call a building inspector to inspect to see if your code meets 'Code', and it's not like you have to be vetted by some process (journeyman training with plumbers/electricians), or lawyers and doctors studying under seniors -- all of those complex professions have requirements of working under senior partners to make sure you get trained. Software engineering doesn't have that. As a result -- the chaos at each generation (and each release) is inescapably more complex than the previous. To expect each to take the same finite amount of time is irrational. That doesn't mean each release HAS to take longer, but the scope of what is done may need to be narrowed to fit the time allotted. This isn't being done and quality is going down the tubes (noticed first with 11.4 in terms of ease of upgrade)... This wasn't meant to be about these larger issues -- just that yast2 is broken in expecting a user-specific kde dir to be owned by root. Feel freel to discuss the larger issue -- but maybe the subjects should split to help people who want to discuss either (please prune my verbosity appropriately). Linda -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status: M3
by Stephan Kulow 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

Hi, I wish I had better news, but this week didn't prove good for a Milestone. libreoffice still doesn't build and several applications are broken with new boost - which makes other apps uninstallable too. I just don't want to release a milestone with this ;( But that means someone else has to release Milestone 3, I'll be on vacation next week. But as in the past my hopes that someone will actually care enough are low ;( Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] kde3 libpng15 and gcc47 patches
by David C. Rankin 21 Apr '12

21 Apr '12

All, There are several patches developed for Trinity for tdebase, knemo, basket, tdeedu, tdepim, digikam and k3b available at: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=958 If you improve on them, please drop a note back or on the opensuse-kde3 list. Thanks -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Problem? Solved? How to download i586/i686 packages needed for x86_64 system but not whole i586 distro?
by Linda Walsh 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

I was thinking about how to specify a list of packages to download and wanted to be able to specify just updating/downloading the packages needed for an x86_64 system, without the requirement of downloading the entire x586/x686 package set as well. Currently, I don't see a way to do this -- since the packages in the i[56]86 dirs needed for x86_64 seem to be mixed in with the i[58]86 distro -- OR -- as this all been completely separated, such that if you need a 32-bit package with x86_64, it's in that dir? ... i.e. x86_64/package-32bit-version along side x86_64/package-version? Is that all sorted out now so it's safe to download only the x86_64 dir for an x86_64 system (presuming you don't want to run 32-bit progs -- which, I know, would make for a sub-optimal system right now...) But this is more thinking about 'updates' -- it seems I'm more often needing x86_64 updates than x86 updates, so should I be safe in d/ling just the x86_64? I know at one point samba had some 32-bit packages that needed to be installed, but have they been moved (or copied) to also reside under the x86_64 dir? Thanks.... It would be nice to know if you don't have 32-bit machines that you don't have to download 2 separate architectures... and I'm sure customers would appreciate only needing to download the archs that they have ('noarch' would be included along side the others, by 'default' as it is used by both)... Linda -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] GCC 4.7
by Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

Hi everybody, Just a heads-up this time: This morning, GCC 4.7 was switched to be the default compiler in Factory. AS far as we're concerned, most packages should be fixed by now (at least in their devel projects). So if you see package failures due to this, please make sure to sync your devel projects up. There is a small amount of packages that is still failing, and there is a possibility that we (the informal team of hackers fixing GCC 4.7 fallouts) missed some packages. If so, please feel free to a) Check with upstreams for a fix... most maintained things are fixed by now (Fedora to the thanks here) b) Fix the package (most of the time it's missing includes and the like c) ping us here and/or IRC for assistance. As with all other packages, we'll try to help to resolve the build failures. Looking forward to a full build of Factory! Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Color management in openSUSE 12.2, help wanted !
by Klaus Kaempf 20 Apr '12

20 Apr '12

Hi, if you're interested in having support for inexpensive and open-source color management in openSUSE 12.2, your help is required. ColorHug (http://www.hughsie.com) "is an open source display colorimeter. It allows you to calibrate your screen for accurate color matching." The respective packages (libgusb2, colord, colorhug-client) all exist and build in the openSUSE build service. Getting all of these into openSUSE:Factory (and finally openSUSE 12.2) still needs extra time I am not able to spend. If anyone wants to tackle the job of getting all required packages accepted into Factory, your help is welcomed ! Regards, Klaus --- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] proprietary NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.40.run patch
by Patrick Shanahan 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

When using your supplied patch: patch_nvidia_295_40.run_for_3.3+ for NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.40.run "sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.40.run --apply-patch ./patch_nvidia_295_40.run_for_3.3+" I get: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.40-custom.run and: sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.40-custom.run -a yields: ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module. nvidia-installer.log is available: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/nvidia-installer.log tks for your help -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] fontconfig 2.9.0 in factory
by Petr Gajdos 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

Hi list, note that new fontconfig is in factory, feel free to test and report any regressions. When you have any problem with particular font, please refer to http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:How_to_Report_a_Font_Issue Thanks! Petr

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[opensuse-factory] error in netcdf-devel
by Ilya Chernykh 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

In file included from netcdf.cpp:19:0: netcdf_source.h:24:23: fatal error: netcdfcpp.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. I checked but it seems netcdfcpp.h is not existent in the package in Factory. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Monodevelop has ton of errors when starting.
by Roger Luedecke 18 Apr '12

18 Apr '12

roger@Homodevil:~> monodevelop WARNING: Cannot find Mozilla directory containing libgtkembedmoz.so. Some Addins may not be able to function. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your Mozilla directory. WARNING: trailing data after Gdk.Key portion of shortcut Control|Alt|Up| ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:20Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:21Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:23Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:24Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:25Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:26Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:27Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:27Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:27Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:28Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:28Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:28Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:29Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:29Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:29Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:30Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:30Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:30Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:31Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:31Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:31Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:32Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:32Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:33Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:33Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:33Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:33Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:34Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:34Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:34Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:35Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:35Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:35Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:36Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:36Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:36Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:36Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:37Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ERROR [2012-04-18 10:48:37Z]: Unhandled Exception System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 Error: did not find one of the files in sources//usr/lib/monodoc/sources/gd2i node `classlib-webkit' is not defined on the documentation map -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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