As Roger mentioned discretely in his email there is much a foot with UK Govt ref open source (although i cant claim to be aware of all activities), to start you may want to check out the following.... http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=429 a 'consultation' on open source, you are invited to respond... this is based on a report from QinetiQ (ex DERA) http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/interoperability/egif_document.asp?docnum=430 this is a major development and a step in the right direction. currently one of the main areas for open source potential for Govt is with Public Key Infrastructure (PKI), the proprietary cost of implementing this by 2005 dwarfs the NHS deal (Verisign current charge $20-30 per user for a certificate * online population of the UK :-) i'm not aware of any specific educational initiatives, although the consultations current refer to the incorporation of open source in all appropriate tenders. Given that Laptops for Teachers (£100m over two years) was announced on Wednesday, a Linux based solution could save a minimum of £10m.... hmmmm.....the problem is that no h/w manufacturer or reseller of laptops is going to offer a Linux solution to OJEC tender (run by Becta) as they may risk their M$ based bid. Each supplier will probably be restricted in the number of solutions they are submit.... thoughts? Malc -- -------------------------------------- Malcolm Herbert Red Hat Europe t: +44 1483 734955 m: +44 7720 079845 --------------------------------------
http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=429 a 'consultation' on open source, you are invited to respond...
this is based on a report from QinetiQ (ex DERA) http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/interoperability/egif_document.asp?docnum=430
this is a major development and a step in the right direction. currently
but I looked at these before Christmas, registered as a user and submitted a polite comment/question to the discussion. I now find both these pages say "there are no comments on this document" and when I log into the discussion groups there are very few items and none of them are mine. Can anyone else find my posting there? I kept no record of the details, but I am sure my submission went through OK. -- Christopher Dawkins, Felsted School, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3JG 01371-822698/821076 or 07798 636725 cchd@felsted.essex.sch.uk
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From: "Christopher Dawkins"
http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=429 a 'consultation' on open source, you are invited to respond...
this is based on a report from QinetiQ (ex DERA)
this is a major development and a step in the right direction.
currently
but I looked at these before Christmas, registered as a user and submitted a polite comment/question to the discussion. I now find both these
say "there are no comments on this document" and when I log into the discussion groups there are very few items and none of them are mine.
Can anyone else find my posting there?
I kept no record of the details, but I am sure my submission went
http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/interoperability/egif_document.asp?docnum=430 pages through
OK.
:-) Sorry, Chis. But I cannot help wondering if it's a M$ server they're running. I'm in my windows box at the minute so don't have access to some of my proper network tools, like nmap and nessus. -- Paul Hornshaw
worse, http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.govtalk.gov.uk shows a well known OS/web server combination (sic) Minstrel-httpd/16 on NT4/Windows 98 Malcolm
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Dawkins"
To: "Malcolm Herbert" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] UK Govt actions... http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=429 a 'consultation' on open source, you are invited to respond...
this is based on a report from QinetiQ (ex DERA)
this is a major development and a step in the right direction.
currently
but I looked at these before Christmas, registered as a user and submitted a polite comment/question to the discussion. I now find both these
say "there are no comments on this document" and when I log into the discussion groups there are very few items and none of them are mine.
Can anyone else find my posting there?
I kept no record of the details, but I am sure my submission went
http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/interoperability/egif_document.asp?docnum=430 pages through
OK.
:-)
Sorry, Chis. But I cannot help wondering if it's a M$ server they're running.
I'm in my windows box at the minute so don't have access to some of my proper network tools, like nmap and nessus.
-- Paul Hornshaw
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Malcolm Herbert Red Hat Europe t: +44 1483 734955 m: +44 7720 079845 --------------------------------------
As Roger mentioned discretely in his email there is much a foot with UK Govt ref open source (although i cant claim to be aware of all activities), to start you may want to check out the following....
http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=429 a 'consultation' on open source, you are invited to respond...
However there is also http://www.vnunet.com/News/1128177
this is a major development and a step in the right direction. currently one of the main areas for open source potential for Govt is with Public Key Infrastructure (PKI), the proprietary cost of implementing this by 2005 dwarfs the NHS deal (Verisign current charge $20-30 per user for a certificate * online population of the UK :-)
Which is very silly considering the UK government is in a better position to authenticate it's citizens than some US company... (With everyone already having at least 3 unique numbers assigned to them, one of which has no US analogue.) -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 08:29:48PM +0000, Malcolm Herbert wrote:
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hmmmm.....the problem is that no h/w manufacturer or reseller of laptops is going to offer a Linux solution to OJEC tender (run by Becta) as they may risk their M$ based bid. Each supplier will probably be restricted in the number of solutions they are submit....
thoughts?
AFAIK the only big company that offers a laptop with Linux pre-installed is IBM & then you're on your own as far as support goes. Linux on servers is of course a different story. The best that could be hoped for is that one of the companies that tenders offers a choice of OS on the laptop or that the hardware was compatible with Linux. If I was a teacher I'd still go for a Windows laptop & install Linux on it also. Perhaps the `Linux' teachers should make their voices heard before the laptops end up being Windows-only kit. -- Frank *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Boroughbridge. Tel: 01423 323019 --------- PGP keyID: 0xC0B341A3 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/ University politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small. -- Henry Kissinger
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'Frank Shute'
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Christopher Dawkins
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Malcolm Herbert
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Mark Evans
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Paul