On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 12:44 +0100, Lars Rupp wrote:
Hi James
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 05:32, James Tremblay wrote (shortened):
I'd like to turn those two "channels" into the most trusted education software sites in the world!
I think we should decide between: - "build service" channels (containing always the "bleeding edge" software) and - "installation" channels (containing well tested software for endusers).
Pointing endusers to channels with sometime broken packages doesn't make sense to me.
Yes: the buildservice should provide an additional "Administration Frontend" for Repository Administrators, so they can decide when a (new) package will get in an external installation repository for endusers, but at this time this Frontend is not there...
So my current personal "Roadmap" looks like: 1) Find out what we need: + test the current software packages we have on the distro => file bugreports if there is something we can do better + test other software packages (like new ones available in the build service or completely different ones)
2) Bring it together: + come up with some lists on en.opensuse.org/Education which contain recommendations classified by childrens age or "subject" resp. "area of interest". So parents and children get a first contact point to look for available (and perhaps missing) linux education-software. + develop some special education patterns (a list of packages, marked for installation during the installation-phase of the new distribution) for installation sources. They can be splittet in the same categories like the ones in the wiki. So a first set of patterns can perhaps be placed on the next openSUSE 10.3 and endusers can just select a pattern like "educational software for children from 4-10 years" and get all software which is described in the wiki. (We can create some tables in the wiki and place links to a more detailed description (and perhaps even a curriculum) of every package there.)
I'm not sure we should bother AJ about adding this stuff to the "mainline", I always thought it would be separate, unless it's a post installation option in Yast from either our repo's or the edu-cd. I would put it as a default bookmark on the desktop like they used to do with the SuSE home page in SLE9
3) Enhance it: + With the patterns and a hughe amount of good packages, we can start an own "Edu-CD" like edubuntu - if this is necessary. But I think this should be something at the end of a long way.
If we create a good starting point for new customers, who can get 1. information (which software should I install for my children) 2. packages ("just one click away") 3. useful instructions for "the first time" they try the packages
and all of these looking like a charm - I think we can do a very good job - and we need only a few packagers. What we need most are some "Beta-Testers" who test the available packages and write articles about them in the wiki. Thats just my two cents worth - what do you think?
Lars
I'll take that as a PLAN! Should we make time to collaborate on what the wiki says? how about our own IRC channel, #opensuse-edu ? I am in the learning phase on so many things, that hearing from you is blessing. I dropped the core set of "admin" packages in the /server BS folder but they all need setup scripts and spec files added, another learning curve for me. I don't have a clue as to how to separate the "BS" channel from the "installation" channel. Maybe I should have put them in my /home BS folder and gave you permission's ? Do you have a regular time we can IRC? I think I'm ok with maintaining the wiki content and with some direction I can make it better. I was wondering if someone could do some official "wooing" on the people at http://www.tux4kids.com/ to join in? I posted about us in their forum. I was hoping that we could get lots of help from Edu communities like them. I will do what is asked of me to make this happen, so please feel free to ask. James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org