July 2004 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Pam_mount on SuSe 9.1
by Rob Keeling 06 May '05

06 May '05

I am trying to install SuSE 9.1 as a workstation in a NT 4 Domain network. The default suse 9.1 install installed winbind etc, and configured them allowing me to log on to ssh with a NT username and password. I now want to configure pam_mount to mount a subdirectory of the unix home directory as the NT home directory. I had configured this on an old SuSE 8.1 box, so I think /etc/pam_mount.conf should be OK. However, having added auth and session lines for pam_mount into /etc/pam.d/sshd I can only get to the stage that in /var/log/messages I see pam_mount: error trying to retrieve authtok from auth code How do I enable pam_mount? My /etc/pam.d/sshd file is as follows #%PAM-1.0 auth required pam_unix2.so set_secrpc auth required pam_nologin.so auth required pam_env.so auth optional pam_mount.so use_first_pass account required pam_unix2.so account required pam_nologin.so password required pam_pwcheck.so password required pam_unix2.so use_first_pass use_authtok session required pam_unix2.so # trace or debug session required pam_limits.so session optional pam_mount.so use_first_pass # Enable the following line to get resmgr support for # ssh sessions (see /usr/share/doc/packages/resmgr/README.SuSE) #session optional pam_resmgr.so fake_ttyname Thanks Rob Keeling -- I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by. - Douglas Adams

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Authentication
by David Williams 30 Jul '04

30 Jul '04

Hi everyone This is my annual request for help. I'm carrying out our regular server upgrades (Suse 8.2 to 9.1). I've done a fresh install and obviously some aspect of the default install has changed. This happens every year. 1) I can't connect using putty other than be enabling ssh1. ie the default ssh connection does not work on 9.1 when it did on 8.2. Any ideas? 2) Using the same smb.conf file on 9.1 does not work in the same way. We authenticate users on our other servers by setting security = user on our main server and then security = server on the other servers. Samba 3 does not seem to like this. Any ideas? TIA Dave Williams

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icewm
by garry saddington 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

Does anyone know where SuSE have put the default preferences for Icewm. No matter where I change the preferences it makes no effect on the desktop - in particular changing the background image? regards garry

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Suse email manual
by M.Blackmore 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

Poking about on the suse ftp site I spotted their email server directories and within that was a .pdf manual about running their email server which looked very useful. Is the email server on this product basically cyrus IMAP? If so, how much is the manual a manual for cyrus that could be used as it looked a lot better than the various howtos I've seen about (which basically I can't understand enough to do something useful with. But then perhaps I'm just being thick)? As the needs aren't great, have the put the older versions of their emailserver on the ftp site complete so they can be downloaded? I couldn't make out if the earlier version directories were functional or just a collection of patches.

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] email server
by Chris Puttick 23 Jul '04

23 Jul '04

For future developments, where you are up against MS Exchange/Outlook, there are two cards to bring into play. It is a fact that the majority of viruses currently in the wild affect MS Outlook, and that this likely to continue to be true. Second, if they want an integrated personal organiser/messaging solution, then the schools version of SLOX is a very high value product that provides that in a shiny and supported package. I know it's not (yet) open source, but it's a step in the right direction, and I don't think there is anything open source that can provide this functionality in a way that education management can be sold it. Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: Matt Williams [mailto:lists@yewlands.com] Sent: Thu 7/22/2004 11:14 PM To: SuSE Schools Cc: Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] email server Steve Palmer wrote: > Your best bet would be to try and configure it through > Webmin. We used Squirelmail when we did it the linux > way, but none of the staff liked it and we ended up > with exchange 03 & OWA. > Not had much experience setting this sort of thing up but, from a users point of view I *personally* think Horde is the best web email application I have come across. Exchange has all the calendar integration etc. all in but the security risks alone make it make it a no go for me, and OWA is very poor. Matt > --- garry saddington <garry(a)joydiv.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > >>I am trying to configure an email server in our >>network to handle internal >>mail and i am having trouble finding documentation >>on how to do it. I have >>sendmail installed. Does anyone know where to find >>the docs or has anyone >>experience with this. There is nothing in the Suse >>admin guide - presume they >>want to sell me the software to do it? >>regards >>garry >> >> >>-- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com >>For additional commands, e-mail: >>suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com >> >> > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com This message may contain information and/or data that is confidential and legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any use, publication, reproduction or dissemination is strictly prohibited and may violate certain laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by return e-mail and destroy this and all copies of this message and/or data. The content of this message has been scanned by MailPatrol for unacceptable language and inappropriate content. European Electronique limited thanks you in anticipation of your co-operation. MailPatrol is a fully managed service that offers your organisation the ability to monitor and enforce your Acceptable Usage Policy. For further information regarding the MailPatrol services contact the European Electronique Sales Enquiry line on 0845 345 8340 (local rate) or email sales(a)euroele.com

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email server
by garry saddington 22 Jul '04

22 Jul '04

I am trying to configure an email server in our network to handle internal mail and i am having trouble finding documentation on how to do it. I have sendmail installed. Does anyone know where to find the docs or has anyone experience with this. There is nothing in the Suse admin guide - presume they want to sell me the software to do it? regards garry

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usb
by garry saddington 21 Jul '04

21 Jul '04

I have just done a fresh install of SuSE 9.1 on a laptop and I can't get any usb devices to work. Has anyone seen this before? regards garry

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One (kick into ) touch external drive
by Paul Taylor 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

HI Chris and Thomas: I had to go out so abandoned the project for a while. According to the suse hardware tool the drive is HPFS/NTFS and mounted as: /dev/sdb1 /media/usb-storage-Y33T7NYE:0:0:0p1 With Knoppix I could write a test.txt file to it and create a directory easily enough, although it wouldn't allow me to copy directories, now back in SuSE I can't write to it or remove the directory. I can see it though. With the mount comand Thomas: krell4:~ # mount -o gid=$GID,uid=$UID,defaults /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, or too many mounted file systems The problem is that there is already some windows rap (with a silent c) on the drive from school that I can't get rid of as they need ti. If I could format it I would be fine. Perhaps I should quite and look for another option for the soon to be lost weekend? -- De Omnibus Dubitandum

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] External hard drives
by Thomas Adam 17 Jul '04

17 Jul '04

--- Paul Taylor <ptaylor(a)uklinux.net> wrote: > On Friday 16 Jul 2004 23:09, you wrote: > > mount /dev/foo -o defaults /somewhere > I did this and something similar just after I wrote. It now reads the > drive > but will not write to it? What filesystem is it using. What's the output from "ls -l /dev/foo", where "/dev/foo" is the partition you're mounting.... -- Thomas Adam ===== "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net "<shrug> We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :)" -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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External hard drives
by Paul Taylor 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Has anyone had any success with external hard drives? I have a Maxtor USB drive I borrowed from school so that I can re-arrange my hard drive on my computer. SuSE finds it no problem but as soon as I try to use it I am told that I can enter the folder. I can read it in Knoppix fine but not write to it and of course wit works fine in Doze. Any suggestions as to what I need to do or what I should be looking at? Paul -- De Omnibus Dubitandum

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Windows Authentication How to?
by Ben Higginbottom 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

>Could someone point me to a 'how to' which would enable me to get 9.1 to >authenticate against active directory in win server 2003 and possibly >automatically mount the kids' home dir I did a presentation for my LUG on this topic last month, I've been meaning to write a howto in my copious free time, but until then I do have the presentation that should go a fair way in pointing you in the right direction. I cant remember if list rules permit attachments, so if you and anyone else who is interested contact me offlist at benDOThigginbottomATntlworldDOTcom, I'll send it to you. Best, Ben

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Article in today's "Independent"
by John Ingleby 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

Here it is: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=5406… Well done Richard! John Ingleby ************

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Bett Show
by Joanna Harris 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

Heres one to munch your brains on......since going to Bett 2003 (and the previous two) my partner and I have wanted to take....my Linux Schools project (www.linuxschools.org.uk not available at the moment but hosting says I have been given to the admin!!) and Swadelands school where he ICT-Coordinates to the Bett show basically a look what you can do without spending thousands!! Passed the headmistress etc, but one problem....just checked the costs...£310 per sq metre...thats alot.... Basically I'm asking for ideas to raise that money....this is not a prority for the school obviously! and I'm not sure if any companies would listen...sponsorship way. help?!? lol Jo

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Windows Authentication How to?
by Darren Smith 13 Jul '04

13 Jul '04

Hello Could someone point me to a 'how to' which would enable me to get 9.1 to authenticate against active directory in win server 2003 and possibly automatically mount the kids' home dir TIA -- Darren

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sounds of disaster
by Paul Taylor 10 Jul '04

10 Jul '04

On my own desktop I keep getting an error message when I boot into KDE that the soundserver has crashed. The sound system still works but it is irritating. It doesn't happen on other desktops and I suspect it is related to installing some xine files on my own desktop in a previous version of SuSE/KDE. Can anyone point me to the config file I need to look at/adjust/delete? Paul -- De Omnibus Dubitandum

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email?
by mmarseglia 04 Jul '04

04 Jul '04

anyone use SuSE/Novell for email?

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Re: [suse-schools-usa] REMOVE - unsubscribe
by Joe T Animal 04 Jul '04

04 Jul '04

Same goes for me too, please. Get me off of this dang thing! On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 11:05:51 -0400 "Eric W. Landry" <elandry(a)lantec1.us> writes: > Remove me from your list please > > -----Original Message----- > From: steve [mailto:steve@openoz.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 12:12 PM > To: suse-schools-usa(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-schools-usa] email? > > Ok, some elaboration may help with this one.. > I am using SuSE Personal Edition using K-Mail. > Do you mean the/a client or a server? > > Steve > > > > On Saturday 03 July 2004 21:50, mmarseglia wrote: > > anyone use SuSE/Novell for email? > > -- > -- > Stephen Donaldson > General Manager > OpenOZ Pty Ltd > > -- > To unsubscribe, email: suse-schools-usa-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, email: suse-schools-usa-help(a)suse.com > For help, email: suse-schools-usa-owner(a)suse.com > > > -- > To unsubscribe, email: suse-schools-usa-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, email: suse-schools-usa-help(a)suse.com > For help, email: suse-schools-usa-owner(a)suse.com > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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The visionless leading the partially unsighted?
by Paul Taylor 03 Jul '04

03 Jul '04

Hi all: Apologies in advance if there are any colleagues here working for exam boards.. I got a letter this week from OCR telling me they were dropping some optional units from their AVCE ICT. They (the exam boards) are all changing over to an applied VCE in a year or two so this is the last run of this specification. In light of this I thought it would be a good time to phone with a speculative foray into changing their specifications to reflect the real world of IT. I thought that given Apache runs 70% of all web sites and that IT Week this week says that Linux server adoption is off the scale it would be timely for exam boards to reflect the interest and up-take of Linux in the industry and offer a Linux unit in their optional choices. I was prepared to write something up (with the approval and support of this community) and even support it with moderating and exam papers if necessary. I phoned OCR first, "what's it called?", mm, not a good start. They seemed less than keen to get involved. The main person was not there but I was assured that all of the materials had been written already and there was no real plans for additional ones for the next few years. I then called Edexcel who currently have Unit 24 and Unit 25 which equate directly to Cisco Semesters 1/2 and 3/4. They had no idea what I was talking about at all (a quick crash test on their server revealled IIS which may explain this lack of knowledge). I was told again that the "exciting" new applied material would be published in the Summer but there was no room for any development of this or additional material. I know I am somewhat biased in that I am on this site and have been using Linux for several years but any casual perusal of mainstram magazines will tell you that Linux is not some backwater freak show. All of the big players are adopting it in some form and even Microsoft take it seriously enough to try to rubbish it in adverts. When will the exam boards reflect reality? At my last school I ran a Cisco Academy and due to expense (and personal interest) I had Linux as all the servers and some of the desktops. The kids were rather dismissive of my evangelising but learned it reluctantly. I have kept in touch with most of them and whether they have gone on to jobs in IT or University courses they say that the thing that did it for them was not the Cisco but the Linux experience. So endeth my rant. Paul Ps Anyone going to Novell HQ on Tuesday for the Linux seminar? -- De Omnibus Dubitandum

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Problems printing via cups.
by Rob Keeling 03 Jul '04

03 Jul '04

I have hit a bit of a problem with printing from a Suse 9.1 box running cups 1.1.20 to a Suse 8.2 print server running Cups 1.1.19. I can configure /etc/cups/client.conf to point to the 8.2 print server, and everything works, however the workstation sees all the 30 odd print queues on the printer server. I only want the workstaion to see 3 of the printers. (The workstation is configured as a LTSP server...) I have tried running cups on the workstation, adding the three printers using lpadmin -p <printername> ipp://qegs-printers/printers/<printername> Which worked, but mozilla Firefox would not print! In fact it stops the print queue with the error "EMPTY PRINT FILE!" once you attempt to print from Firefox. Is there either a way of restricting which printers are used by the clients, or making firefox print? Thanks Rob Keeling -- I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by. - Douglas Adams

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] The visionless leading the partially unsighted?
by Phil Brown 03 Jul '04

03 Jul '04

> Ps Anyone going to Novell HQ on Tuesday for the Linux seminar? > -- If this seminar is another in the series that Novell are doing to promote their newly acquired SuSE product � Then don�t expect too much in the way of Linux specifics!. In the one I attended in Leeds last week, the opening and closing bits were dire, the 2nd up was a talk by a chap from IBM, which was well presented and interesting, albeit not directly related to SuSE. The bulk of the day was given up a role place scenario between two Novell people who wanted to demonstrate the ease of use and implementation of SuSE in a corporate environment. The main problem I had with all this was that it was heavily promoting all shiny and GUI �bolt on� bits that potentially cost a fortune and would be prohibitive to Edu. (Well it will be to us anyway!). Their main announcement was that that NetWARE 7 - Now called Open Enterprise Server will be launched early in December. Summary - The goody-bag and the lunch were good and there was some interesting bits. Phil Brown (Sorry I'm new to posting here, so I should have introduced myself 1st - will do that bit soon)

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Mounted Floppies
by Thomas Adam 02 Jul '04

02 Jul '04

--- Matt Johnson <johnsonmlw(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > I don't understand your comment (not that I posted the > comment anyway). What does top post mean? Ta very > much. It's best described here: http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MailingList/TopPosting -- Thomas Adam ===== "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- http://linuxgazette.net "TAG Editor" -- http://linuxgazette.net "<shrug> We'll just save up your sins, Thomas, and punish you for all of them at once when you get better. The experience will probably kill you. :)" -- Benjamin A. Okopnik (Linux Gazette Technical Editor) ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OpenExchange experiences requested
by Tony Whitmore 01 Jul '04

01 Jul '04

Chris Puttick wrote: > SuSE Linux (Enterprise or Standard) Server 8 (aka United Linux 1) SP2, > which I think is 2.4.2x OK, thanks. The SUSE homepage for SLES 8 reckons a 2.4.19 kernel. (The x86 specs from [1].) I'm not sure about this whole SP2 thing - that may have included a kernel upgrade. If it _is_ running 2.4.19, that not only knocks SATA on the head, but also Adaptec 79xx SCSI controllers. Looks like this could be harder than I thought...... Tony [1]http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/business/products/server/sles/index.html

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OO and exam boards
by Paul Taylor 01 Jul '04

01 Jul '04

I take everyone's points on board and I was rather devil's advocating (English is such a wonderful language that you can invent words to suit..). I am pushing Ingots at my SMT Ian but the same argument remains from Tony and Thomas that it is tried and tested things that managemant want. Many of the school's I have worked at the leaders have been very thin on technical knowledge so getting 60 more Windows boxes in is an easy option compared to a suit of LTSP. On Thomas's particular point that it is tried and tested I did say that Edexcel's Units 24/25 can only really be taught by Cisco Academys and I know there are not that many about. I would say there are as many people knowledgeable enough with Linux to teach it as there are Cisco Academys but obviously pressure and money have been applied there. On Joe's more specific example that does not necessarily negate what I am saying as I too have taught with Linux material and at a recent AQA moderation meeting I was told that the chief moderator used LAMP stuff like Moodle but added that he didn't really promote it. People who use Linux are generally more computer savvy and it would be a harsh examiner that penalised a student for something that they obviously knew as much about or more than a moderator, regardless of whether it was mentioned in the official syllabus. This brings me back in a way to Thomas's more general point that it relates to teachers. He says that in some way it relates to qualified teachers who can handle the units. That is only partly true. All exam boards offer Programming as a portfolio unit but I doubt there are more than 1% of schools in the country that have staff that could teach it properly (or networking, CGI, Computer Accounts et al for that fact). I am no complete philanthropist and if I could write good C++ I doubt I would be fighting teenage rebellions in my classroom day in day out :) I bet there are more than 1% of staff in schools in the UK who have dabbled in Linux. Every school I have so far taught at in the SW has had some ICT teacher who has set up a Linux server for the school's web. I suppose, again to answer Thomas's comments, I would create a unit to supplement the other units offered by the boards. As Joe points out, it is easy to do database and networking units using Linux but only if you know a bit about it. Why not have a general Linux unit to support the other ones. Every student could use Knoppix or similar (SuSE 9.1 live if this is still a SuSE site post-Roger) and not make a mess of the school's network and as Joe did (and in conjunction with Ian) everyone could write it up on OOo with their knowledge acquired from Ingot training. Paul -- De Omnibus Dubitandum

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] OO and exam boards]
by Ian Lynch 01 Jul '04

01 Jul '04

On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 02:25, Thomas Adam wrote: > --- Paul Taylor <ptaylor(a)uklinux.net> wrote: > > > some ICT teacher who has set up a Linux server for the school's web. > > I suppose, again to answer Thomas's comments, I would create a unit to > > supplement the other units offered by the boards. As Joe points out, it > > This is certainly a good idea. The only problem I see is that when using > Linux, how would you go about it? You could, say, use Webmin and/or all > the pretty GUI configs that Linux has to offer, but this hides away a lot > of what *is* Linux, and if this were the case, you might as well go back > to Windows. > > If you were going to configure a web-server, would you teach them how to > do it from Vi for instance? Or would this be considered too "difficult" by > the exam board? I know it sounds like a patronising comment, but having > concrete reasons from the examining-boards as to why they're not willing; > or are reluctant to endorse the idea would help. You differentiate and allow different routes depending on the abilities of the students. > Then you have the issue of programming. You mentioned the very low > percentage of schools that allow for that option -- this is indeed very > true. It's often quite hard to know where to start and indeed, where to > draw the line. This is probably why VB is used in such instances. :/ Python would probably be a good place to start - except for the lack of knowledge of it in teachers but since most teachers in general lack programming knowledge perhaps the advantage is you can use anything to start :-) -- Ian Lynch <ian.lynch(a)zmsl.com> ZMS Ltd

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