Re: [opensuse-contrib] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Czech Packagers Team - Contrib repository notes
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 04:01:30PM +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote:
On po 8. prosince 2008, James Oakley wrote:
Problem: There is work to be done Solution: Someone needs to work on it
Apparently no one has any real interest in doing it. Otherwise someone would step up.
I've submitted a couple of packages, but I was still under the impression that the whole thing was not yet fully formalised. I have a bunch of packages waiting for submission.
I'm not entirely clear on what's left to do. Is there a problem with the current workflow, or should I just start submitting the packages?
According to the wiki page, the only open issues are security fixes and updates. Marcus, could you please look at
http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib and http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-11/msg00410.html
and comment on it?
First, you should perhaps just start doing stuff there and see how it works out.... Second, How long do you want this to live, and for what products? Do you want to freeze the code for a specific release? If say you want 11.1 and FACTORY supported, then you need subprojects for the 11.1 and FACTORY and can then apply backported security fixes / bugfixes to 11.1 and new versions to the FACTORY sub-project. If you just want to run parallel to FACTORY, then just update versions as they come, and there is no need to maintenance and security (since you do not exist for old products). Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 04:01:30PM +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote:
According to the wiki page, the only open issues are security fixes and updates. Marcus, could you please look at
http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib and http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-11/msg00410.html
and comment on it?
First, you should perhaps just start doing stuff there and see how it works out.... Second [...]
I think the question to you is rather about how to ensure that we know about security problems and such. So how would we best do the work you guys do for the Contrib repo? The handling is pretty easy. Just submit a patch to the packages in the <version>:Contrib repo and patch/newer version to Factory:Contrib. Like you said. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 05:22:41PM +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hi,
Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 04:01:30PM +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote:
According to the wiki page, the only open issues are security fixes and updates. Marcus, could you please look at
http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib and http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-11/msg00410.html
and comment on it?
First, you should perhaps just start doing stuff there and see how it works out.... Second [...]
I think the question to you is rather about how to ensure that we know about security problems and such. So how would we best do the work you guys do for the Contrib repo?
The handling is pretty easy. Just submit a patch to the packages in the <version>:Contrib repo and patch/newer version to Factory:Contrib. Like you said.
There is one question for this which I had in part 2: Will you have seperate repos for old versions like 11.1 and Factory and backport to the old versions? Or do you always go the current upstream version, like e.g. packman does? If there are per-product contrib repositories with backports, it will be much more work and require more involvement. For notifications of security issues I have no idea yet, but can discuss this with the team... We could mail / bugreport issues with packages in Contrib for instance. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Marcus Meissner schrieb:
The handling is pretty easy. Just submit a patch to the packages in the <version>:Contrib repo and patch/newer version to Factory:Contrib. Like you said.
There is one question for this which I had in part 2:
Will you have seperate repos for old versions like 11.1 and Factory and backport to the old versions?
Or do you always go the current upstream version, like e.g. packman does?
The plan is to freeze Factory:Contrib together with a release and have distribution bound Contrib repositories which only get bug- and security fixes if possible. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 05:22:41PM +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 04:01:30PM +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote:
According to the wiki page, the only open issues are security fixes and updates. Marcus, could you please look at
http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib and http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-11/msg00410.html
and comment on it? First, you should perhaps just start doing stuff there and see how it works out.... Second [...]
I think the question to you is rather about how to ensure that we know about security problems and such. So how would we best do the work you guys do for the Contrib repo?
The handling is pretty easy. Just submit a patch to the packages in the <version>:Contrib repo and patch/newer version to Factory:Contrib. Like you said.
There is one question for this which I had in part 2:
Will you have seperate repos for old versions like 11.1 and Factory and backport to the old versions?
Or do you always go the current upstream version, like e.g. packman does?
If there are per-product contrib repositories with backports, it will be much more work and require more involvement.
Yes we know but this is already agreed upon. The general idea was to mimic Factory as much as possible. So backporting security stuff is what we will do.
For notifications of security issues I have no idea yet, but can discuss this with the team... We could mail / bugreport issues with packages in Contrib for instance.
Oh if you could do that this would be very cool. Please ask them! Henne -- http://opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
On po 8. prosince 2008, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hi,
Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 04:01:30PM +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote:
According to the wiki page, the only open issues are security fixes and updates. Marcus, could you please look at
http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib and http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-11/msg00410.html
and comment on it?
First, you should perhaps just start doing stuff there and see how it works out.... Second
[...]
I think the question to you is rather about how to ensure that we know about security problems and such. So how would we best do the work you guys do for the Contrib repo?
Yes, this is the main question.
The handling is pretty easy. Just submit a patch to the packages in the <version>:Contrib repo and patch/newer version to Factory:Contrib. Like you said.
Still, there is a questions how to handle non-public bugs (if we have any chance to know about them) Vladimir -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
Hi All ! I'm the creator of contrib but since I'm working on other, non-related things, I have basically have little time to maintain contrib actively, and the project came to halt. I may go back to contribute actively eventually, but there is no timeline - so don't count on it. I have proposed myself to include a few packages, but after a review we decided to drop them. We - means me and other reviewers. We have a two layered system here: (Contrib) Reviewers and (Package) Maintainers. Reviewers review packages provided by maintainers and maintain the whole repository, while maintainers maintain only maintain their packages, propose new packages for review/inclusion.
* will be branched on each distribution release (openSUSE:Factory:Contrib -> openSUSE:11.2:Contrib) Yes I agree with this point of view.
Here is the home page of contrib: http://www.opensuse.org/contrib I think the real goal is the unification of both (Factory+Contrib), like happened in Fedora (Core+Extras), but we are very far from it. So Contrib is the step in the right direction. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 05:58:46PM +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote:
On po 8. prosince 2008, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hi,
Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 04:01:30PM +0100, Vladimir Nadvornik wrote:
According to the wiki page, the only open issues are security fixes and updates. Marcus, could you please look at
http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib and http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-11/msg00410.html
and comment on it?
First, you should perhaps just start doing stuff there and see how it works out.... Second
[...]
I think the question to you is rather about how to ensure that we know about security problems and such. So how would we best do the work you guys do for the Contrib repo?
Yes, this is the main question.
The handling is pretty easy. Just submit a patch to the packages in the <version>:Contrib repo and patch/newer version to Factory:Contrib. Like you said.
Still, there is a questions how to handle non-public bugs (if we have any chance to know about them)
We would assign them to you a potential bugzilla list alias they become public. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org
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Wolfgang Rosenauer