[opensuse-conference] scheduling on monday

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[opensuse-conference] re-scheduling

Jos Poortvliet

28 Jun 2013 28 Jun '13

12:48

Heya all, I do notice from the schedule: https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/conference/osc2013/schedule#2013-07-22 that there are sessionss on Monday which seem important. This would be a soft day for community meetups and such - I would not have sponsor talks there (Georg, Hans de Raad), just BoF's. Note that there will be no video recording and no networking materials from SUSE (all materials from SUSE will be packed on Sunday night and will be send back to NUE on Monday). I thought we would do this year "quality over quantity" and that would mean putting good talks (and I see Georg Greve here!) on the main days and no important content on Monday... Community stuff like the discussion about art and branding is perfectly fine but the other three make no sense I think. It's not my call, I'm just saying this seems bad to me. Soft day = people leave... Cheers, J

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Henne Vogelsang

1 Jul 1 Jul

10:10

Hey, On 28.06.2013 14:48, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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I do notice from the schedule: https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/conference/osc2013/schedule#2013-07-22 that there are sessionss on Monday which seem important. This would be a soft day for community meetups and such - I would not have sponsor talks there (Georg, Hans de Raad), just BoF's.

Those are all workshops.

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Note that there will be no video recording and no networking materials from SUSE (all materials from SUSE will be packed on Sunday night and will be send back to NUE on Monday).

WTF! Why? Monday is still a conference day. We never agreed on ripping everything down on Sunday!

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I thought we would do this year "quality over quantity" and that would mean putting good talks (and I see Georg Greve here!) on the main days and no important content on Monday...

How about you figure out a 2 hour workshop that is less important and doesn't have a speaker that is leaving early. I'm looking forward to hear your ideas :-) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

differentreality

11:12

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Henne Vogelsang wrote:

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Hey,

On 28.06.2013 14:48, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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I do notice from the schedule: https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/conference/osc2013/schedule#2013-07-22 that there are sessionss on Monday which seem important. This would be a soft day for community meetups and such - I would not have sponsor talks there (Georg, Hans de Raad), just BoF's.

Those are all workshops.

...
Note that there will be no video recording and no networking materials from SUSE (all materials from SUSE will be packed on Sunday night and will be send back to NUE on Monday).

WTF! Why? Monday is still a conference day. We never agreed on ripping everything down on Sunday!

I have already informed Juergen that tear down of video equipment can happen late afternoon on Monday. I still have no confirmation though of when Juergen is leaving.

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I thought we would do this year "quality over quantity" and that would mean putting good talks (and I see Georg Greve here!) on the main days and no important content on Monday...

How about you figure out a 2 hour workshop that is less important and doesn't have a speaker that is leaving early. I'm looking forward to hear your ideas :-)

Indeed, Georg leaving on Saturday is a huge problem for Program Committee.

...

Henne

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differentreality

13:13

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM, differentreality wrote:

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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Henne Vogelsang wrote:

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Hey,

On 28.06.2013 14:48, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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I do notice from the schedule: https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/conference/osc2013/schedule#2013-07-22 that there are sessionss on Monday which seem important. This would be a soft day for community meetups and such - I would not have sponsor talks there (Georg, Hans de Raad), just BoF's.

Those are all workshops.

...
Note that there will be no video recording and no networking materials from SUSE (all materials from SUSE will be packed on Sunday night and will be send back to NUE on Monday).

WTF! Why? Monday is still a conference day. We never agreed on ripping everything down on Sunday!

I have already informed Juergen that tear down of video equipment can happen late afternoon on Monday. I still have no confirmation though of when Juergen is leaving.

I can confirm everything is set on that account. Juergen and Lars are leaving on Tuesday. So we have full video / live streaming coverage during all Monday and they will be there for the tear down to make sure everything is properly unplugged and stored.

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I thought we would do this year "quality over quantity" and that would mean putting good talks (and I see Georg Greve here!) on the main days and no important content on Monday...

How about you figure out a 2 hour workshop that is less important and doesn't have a speaker that is leaving early. I'm looking forward to hear your ideas :-)

Indeed, Georg leaving on Saturday is a huge problem for Program Committee.

...
Henne

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Agustin Benito Bethencourt

13:31

Hi Stella,

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I have already informed Juergen that tear down of video equipment can happen late afternoon on Monday. I still have no confirmation though of when Juergen is leaving.

I can confirm everything is set on that account. Juergen and Lars are leaving on Tuesday. So we have full video / live streaming coverage during all Monday and they will be there for the tear down to make sure everything is properly unplugged and stored.

The fact that they are staying do not mean that the whole video set up will remain since the shipment back is planned for Monday morning. That is something Juergen has to determine. Please confirm this with him.

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I thought we would do this year "quality over quantity" and that would mean putting good talks (and I see Georg Greve here!) on the main days and no important content on Monday...

How about you figure out a 2 hour workshop that is less important and doesn't have a speaker that is leaving early. I'm looking forward to hear your ideas :-)

Indeed, Georg leaving on Saturday is a huge problem for Program Committee.

...
Henne

-- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit.

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Jos Poortvliet

2 Jul 2 Jul

15:01

On Monday 01 July 2013 12:10:45 Henne Vogelsang wrote:

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Hey,

On 28.06.2013 14:48, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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I do notice from the schedule: https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/conference/osc2013/schedule#2013-07-2 2 that there are sessionss on Monday which seem important. This would be a soft day for community meetups and such - I would not have sponsor talks there (Georg, Hans de Raad), just BoF's.

Those are all workshops.

...
Note that there will be no video recording and no networking materials from SUSE (all materials from SUSE will be packed on Sunday night and will be send back to NUE on Monday).

WTF! Why? Monday is still a conference day. We never agreed on ripping everything down on Sunday!

Monday was a 'soft day' and the openSUSE team (including equipment) is planned to leave Monday morning around 9. The SUSE team has planned to dismantle the network and video equipment Sunday night and schedule a UPS pickup on Monday, to be overseen by Lars/Jürgen/me. I'm not saying I'm terribly happy with it - when preparing the booking for the team I tried to get a flight late on Monday but there simply wasn't any. But this has been the plan for a long time. If Jürgen and Lars are willing to take care of dismantling everything themselves that'd be cool but we have to change plans.

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I thought we would do this year "quality over quantity" and that would mean putting good talks (and I see Georg Greve here!) on the main days and no important content on Monday...

How about you figure out a 2 hour workshop that is less important and doesn't have a speaker that is leaving early. I'm looking forward to hear your ideas :-)

He, I appreciate the complexities, I had a chat with Kostas and Stella and they explained the issue :(

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Henne

Kostas Koudaras

16:21

2013/7/2 Jos Poortvliet :

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On Monday 01 July 2013 12:10:45 Henne Vogelsang wrote:

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Hey,

On 28.06.2013 14:48, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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I do notice from the schedule: https://conference.opensuse.org/osem/conference/osc2013/schedule#2013-07-2 2 that there are sessionss on Monday which seem important. This would be a soft day for community meetups and such - I would not have sponsor talks there (Georg, Hans de Raad), just BoF's.

Those are all workshops.

...
Note that there will be no video recording and no networking materials from SUSE (all materials from SUSE will be packed on Sunday night and will be send back to NUE on Monday).

WTF! Why? Monday is still a conference day. We never agreed on ripping everything down on Sunday!

Monday was a 'soft day' and the openSUSE team (including equipment) is planned to leave Monday morning around 9. The SUSE team has planned to dismantle the network and video equipment Sunday night and schedule a UPS pickup on Monday, to be overseen by Lars/Jürgen/me.

I'm not saying I'm terribly happy with it - when preparing the booking for the team I tried to get a flight late on Monday but there simply wasn't any. But this has been the plan for a long time.

If Jürgen and Lars are willing to take care of dismantling everything themselves that'd be cool but we have to change plans.

...
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I thought we would do this year "quality over quantity" and that would mean putting good talks (and I see Georg Greve here!) on the main days and no important content on Monday...

How about you figure out a 2 hour workshop that is less important and doesn't have a speaker that is leaving early. I'm looking forward to hear your ideas :-)

He, I appreciate the complexities, I had a chat with Kostas and Stella and they explained the issue :(

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Henne

If you guys didn't want Monday to be a conference day you could just tell us, less work for everyone and especially the organizing team, I am giving away my time and my days off from my actual work and personal vacations and you tell me now something that I hear as bla bla bla. If we cannot record the talks and workshops we are simply showing the finger to the people that will do that talks and workshops that day and all that because someone said that things have to be packed one day earlier, excuse me but I find that ridiculous. C'mon people, thinking outside the box is what we do best. For me if we cannot have recordings on Monday let's just cancel the talks on that day. I apreciate every single person who will come to the conference and I prefer to cut Monday than let the people who have a talk or a workshop think that I don't apreciate them. I am a volunteer and if I were one of those people I would prefer that than to have the feeling that I am underestimated. We are planning talks and workshops for more that a month now including Monday and everybody knows that, when was that planning for stuff leaving Monday morning was made? Yesterday that we talked that was not the plan Afaik. This is all my personal opinion and I am willing to carry my part of the responsibility here. Kostas -- --- \m/ --- http://opensuse.gr http://os-el.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://www.kde.gr http://warlordfff.tk --- \m/ --- me I am not I --- \m/ --- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

agustin benito bethencourt

17:43

Hi, Thursday and Monday were defined as "soft day" in order to tell us when to arrive and leave. We have been working under that assumption since right before Christmas when, before the announcement was done, this design was made clear through this mailing list. Please check the thread: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-conference/2012-12/msg00022.html So we are arriving on Thursday and leaving on Monday ... with all the consequences that decision have, following the advice. One of those consequences is that we are bringing material that is under our responsibility so we should make sure it is shipped back by us. We won't leave our material behind. We cannot for obvious reasons. What can we do about it? Not all the material we are sending will come back. I need to figure out, besides the video setup, what other services would be affected. I assume that the openSUSE booth might be partially affected too. I will try to get more details about this. The only way I will leave the material until Tuesday is if: 1.- A SUSE employee takes under his responsibility the shipment back of all the material. 2.- This person is found before the shipment is done, so we do not need to change the conditions of the shipment. I will look for that person. I understand this is not good news and, as I said, we will work on a solution but I think that assigning SUSE any responsibility or some kind of "mood for sabotage" is unfair. Things like budget, traveling dates, etc. were set many months ago, not recently.

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If you guys didn't want Monday to be a conference day you could just tell us, less work for everyone and especially the organizing team, I am giving away my time and my days off from my actual work and personal vacations and you tell me now something that I hear as bla bla bla. If we cannot record the talks and workshops we are simply showing the finger to the people that will do that talks and workshops that day and all that because someone said that things have to be packed one day earlier, excuse me but I find that ridiculous. C'mon people, thinking outside the box is what we do best. For me if we cannot have recordings on Monday let's just cancel the talks on that day. I apreciate every single person who will come to the conference and I prefer to cut Monday than let the people who have a talk or a workshop think that I don't apreciate them. I am a volunteer and if I were one of those people I would prefer that than to have the feeling that I am underestimated. We are planning talks and workshops for more that a month now including Monday and everybody knows that, when was that planning for stuff leaving Monday morning was made? Yesterday that we talked that was not the plan Afaik. This is all my personal opinion and I am willing to carry my part of the responsibility here. Kostas

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differentreality

3 Jul 3 Jul

09:06

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:43 PM, agustin benito bethencourt wrote:

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Hi,

Thursday and Monday were defined as "soft day" in order to tell us when to arrive and leave. We have been working under that assumption since right before Christmas when, before the announcement was done, this design was made clear through this mailing list.

Please check the thread:

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-conference/2012-12/msg00022.html

So we are arriving on Thursday and leaving on Monday ... with all the consequences that decision have, following the advice.

One of those consequences is that we are bringing material that is under our responsibility so we should make sure it is shipped back by us. We won't leave our material behind. We cannot for obvious reasons.

What can we do about it?

Not all the material we are sending will come back. I need to figure out, besides the video setup, what other services would be affected. I assume that the openSUSE booth might be partially affected too. I will try to get more details about this.

The only way I will leave the material until Tuesday is if:

1.- A SUSE employee takes under his responsibility the shipment back of all the material.

2.- This person is found before the shipment is done, so we do not need to change the conditions of the shipment.

I will look for that person.

I understand this is not good news and, as I said, we will work on a solution but I think that assigning SUSE any responsibility or some kind of "mood for sabotage" is unfair. Things like budget, traveling dates, etc. were set many months ago, not recently.

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If you guys didn't want Monday to be a conference day you could just

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tell us, less work for everyone and especially the organizing team, I

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am giving away my time and my days off from my actual work and

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personal vacations and you tell me now something that I hear as bla

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bla bla. If we cannot record the talks and workshops we are simply

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showing the finger to the people that will do that talks and workshops

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that day and all that because someone said that things have to be

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packed one day earlier, excuse me but I find that ridiculous. C'mon

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people, thinking outside the box is what we do best. For me if we

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cannot have recordings on Monday let's just cancel the talks on that

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day. I apreciate every single person who will come to the conference

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and I prefer to cut Monday than let the people who have a talk or a

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workshop think that I don't apreciate them. I am a volunteer and if I

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were one of those people I would prefer that than to have the feeling

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that I am underestimated.

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We are planning talks and workshops for more that a month now

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including Monday and everybody knows that, when was that planning for

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stuff leaving Monday morning was made? Yesterday that we talked that

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was not the plan Afaik.

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This is all my personal opinion and I am willing to carry my part of

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the responsibility here.

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Kostas

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Agustin Benito Bethencourt

openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE

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Goodmorning all, soft days have been defined in the first 2 conference meetings - feel free to look up the logs. Never ever was it mentioned that these days are used for arriving and leaving to/from conference. In fact it was suggested at some point that on Monday we even hold the Project Meeting. Moreover there were 2 people from openSUSE Team in the Program Committee, we all worked under the assumption of putting some pre-scheduled talks on Monday. But little do all these things matter now. Monday has full schedule until the afternoon - we had a lot of interesting submissions and has been quite difficult make decisions about it. Not being able tos chedule anything from SUSE employees on Monday has been a challenge. As a result we will be using all network and video equipment, including live streaming until all talks are over and we begin the tear down. Juergen and Lars are leaving on Tuesday and will be at the venue on Monday to continue all relevant operations and pack video equipment on Monday after everything is finished. Now, that covers the equipment. And please note that Juergen is already quite busy and has been for the couple last months with video preparations. openSUSE booth is up to Agustin. Let us know if there is something we can do to help. We will obviously have volunteers on Monday too. Stella -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

Robert Schweikert

8 Jul 8 Jul

14:01

Hi, just a couple of comments.... On 07/02/2013 01:43 PM, agustin benito bethencourt wrote:

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Hi,

Thursday and Monday were defined as "soft day" in order to tell us when to arrive and leave. We have been working under that assumption since right before Christmas when, before the announcement was done, this design was made clear through this mailing list.

Please check the thread:

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-conference/2012-12/msg00022.html

So we are arriving on Thursday and leaving on Monday ... with all the consequences that decision have, following the advice.

One of those consequences is that we are bringing material that is under our responsibility so we should make sure it is shipped back by us. We won't leave our material behind. We cannot for obvious reasons.

I am not so certain the reasons are obvious. My first instinct would be that there is a "trust issue". While I can understand a general attitude of "this is SUSE stuff and should be handled by SUSE". The way the information is presented above arrives more like "this is SUSE stuff and we don't trust anyone else with it, HANDS OFF". Thus taking a general attitude of care towards paranoia.

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What can we do about it?

Not all the material we are sending will come back. I need to figure out, besides the video setup, what other services would be affected. I assume that the openSUSE booth might be partially affected too. I will try to get more details about this.

The only way I will leave the material until Tuesday is if:

1.- A SUSE employee takes under his responsibility the shipment back of all the material.

Sounds like Juergen and Lars will be there. My flight back is on Tuesday Morning at 8:00 A.M.. Thus, I can certainly help with a late Monday or early Tuesday pickup of Material. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

Juergen Weigert

14:15

On Jul 08, 13 10:01:51 -0400, Robert Schweikert wrote:

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Hi, SUSE stuff and we don't trust anyone else with it, HANDS OFF". Thus taking a general attitude of care towards paranoia.

Ignore the paranoia please. I take care of the return shipment on Monday evening. Piece of cake. :-) cheers, JW- -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ <V> | jw@suse.de back to ascii! __/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 say #263A!__/ (____/ /\ (/) | _____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, J.Guild, F.Imendoerffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg), Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany SuSE. Supporting Linux since 1992. ☺ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

Lars Vogdt

14:28

Hi On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:01:51 -0400 Robert Schweikert wrote:

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1.- A SUSE employee takes under his responsibility the shipment back of all the material.

Sounds like Juergen and Lars will be there. My flight back is on Tuesday Morning at 8:00 A.M.. Thus, I can certainly help with a late Monday or early Tuesday pickup of Material.

Yes: Juergen and myself will also be there and help with the disassembly and packaging of the material. But any help is always very welcome here - as especially at the end of such a conference the motivation of all helpers is going down - so the more helpers, the more motivation ;-) So my current state is that Monday is covered until 14:00 now - and the boxes will be ready for return the same day (the only question here for me is currently how we will bring all those boxes to the UPS dealer, but I guess we will solve this locally). With kind Regards, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

Alberto Planas Dominguez

14:48

Quoting Lars Vogdt :

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So my current state is that Monday is covered until 14:00 now - and the boxes will be ready for return the same day (the only question here for me is currently how we will bring all those boxes to the UPS dealer, but I guess we will solve this locally).

Can we call from here (NUE) and set an appointment to the UPS dealer in the venue? So the dealer can go at the venue at some prefixed time and take the boxes from there. No need to bring any heavy stuff. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

differentreality

14:51

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Alberto Planas Dominguez wrote:

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Quoting Lars Vogdt :

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So my current state is that Monday is covered until 14:00 now - and the boxes will be ready for return the same day (the only question here for me is currently how we will bring all those boxes to the UPS dealer, but I guess we will solve this locally).

Can we call from here (NUE) and set an appointment to the UPS dealer in the venue? So the dealer can go at the venue at some prefixed time and take the boxes from there. No need to bring any heavy stuff.

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In contact with Juergen, we will make arrangements. Someone in NUE office is handling the order and payment of UPS and we will call the local office of UPS to pick up the packages from the venue. I alread spoke to the local office, it's too early for any reservations, is what they said. They only need a phone call on Monday morning to set the time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

Juergen Weigert

17:18

On Jul 08, 13 17:51:24 +0300, differentreality wrote:

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(the only question here for me is currently how we will bring all those boxes to the UPS dealer, but I guess we will solve this locally).

Work in progress. We arrange all this ahead of time. Ivona is helping me to prepare the paperwork this week; just as Stella indicated below. cheers, JW-

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In contact with Juergen, we will make arrangements.

Someone in NUE office is handling the order and payment of UPS and we will call the local office of UPS to pick up the packages from the venue. I alread spoke to the local office, it's too early for any reservations, is what they said. They only need a phone call on Monday morning to set the time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

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Kostas Koudaras
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