On Tuesday 14 August 2007 2:59 pm, Juergen Weigert wrote:
On Aug 14, 07 10:23:28 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:
On Tuesday 14 August 2007 10:28:13 wrote Dirk Stoecker:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Adrian Schröter wrote:
CC'ing to Build-Service.
[.. stripped but still understandable I think ..]
It is no reason and Novell (in this your lawyers) also knows this, but I understand, that Novell will not fight in these cases, as the company editions don't need tools like this and the end users don't pay enough. Sad but true. Anyway I ask myself how we should get useful laws, when the ones who have to power to fight don't do it.
In general you are right, but see it also from the other side. Novell Legal can not fight against everything and cases like the SCO case do burn already lot's of power of the legal departement. Additionally, I see a problem here, since Novell can not prove to use mldonkey (or any eDonky client) to use for a valid reason in his business.
Maybe one thing: A possibility to circumvent these problems would be a Novell independent BuildService. It could handle all these problems, which Novell cannot handle.
If e.g. a Germany based non-profit organization would provide an equal framework as the Novell buildservice most of the problems would vanish (there would still be illegal/legal problems, but much less than for a worldwide operating company). Anyway to really work well a financial as well as legal support would be required (at least in the startup phase).
Could you/we/your superiors start to really think about starting such an organization? Generally this would mean giving the Novell community a real voice.
I really like the openSUSE buildservice as much as I dislike its limitations.
What do the others here think about it?
We would support this.
Hosting a buildservice outside of Novell's control actually helps Novell as much as it helps the community.
I'd help with legal support. Do we have any suggestions, who such an organization could be?
I've actually been planning on setting up a personal obs cluster at home to replace the old simple system I've been using for years. (though not so much anymore since I do most builds on the production obs now) I've set one up for my day job, so I am certainly familiar with the administration. With all of this discussion, I'm now thinking of making it public. If anyone else wants to help out in any way, I would be happy to hear from you. -- James Oakley jfunk@funktronics.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org