https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693#c1 Sebastian Freundt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium CC| |devel@fresse.org Severity|Normal |Major --- Comment #1 from Sebastian Freundt 2012-01-03 18:13:57 UTC --- Same problem here. root@kegel:~ # systemctl disable mysql.service mysql.service is not a native service, redirecting to /sbin/chkconfig. Executing /sbin/chkconfig mysql off [ 130.898697] systemd[1]: Reloading. root@kegel:~ # chkconfig mysql off root@kegel:~ # chkconfig mysql mysql off And yet the service is started automatically: root@kegel:~ # systemctl status mysql.service mysql.service - LSB: Start the MySQL database server Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/mysql) Active: active (running) since Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:08:39 +0000; 1min 11s ago Process: 1289 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/mysql start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/mysql.service ├ 2053 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --mysqld=mysqld --use... └ 2382 /us r/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib... How can I turn mysql off? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693#c3 --- Comment #3 from Sebastian Freundt 2012-01-06 19:51:05 UTC --- But now I cannot start mysql at all? I just don't want postfix to start mysql automatically. I don't think systemctl mask is the right advice, from reading the manual. mask [NAME...] Mask one or more unit files, as specified on the command line. This will link these units to /dev/null, making it impossible to start them. This is a stronger version of disable, since it prohibits all kinds of activation of the unit, including manual activation. Use this option with care. Why does systemctl disable not work? Shall I file this as a separate bug? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693#c5 --- Comment #5 from Sebastian Freundt 2012-01-06 20:10:31 UTC --- Oooooh, I see, there's also ldap in there which is another bug report of mine. So you're saying the Wants=mysql.service is wrong in there (same for ldap). Just to reiterate, in 11.4 the behaviour was if mysql was to be started (via chkconfig on) then it shall be started before postfix. So now I don't want to start mysql, i.e. I have to MANUALLY go through all the OTHER .service files and find if it is wanted then remove the Wants= line? You must be kidding! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693#c7 Cristian Rodríguez changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |werner@suse.com |ovo.novell.com | --- Comment #7 from Cristian Rodríguez 2012-01-06 17:16:18 CLST --- Yes, the Wants line is wrong. it should only contain Wants=mail-transfer-agent.target -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693#c9 Frederic Crozat changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|fcrozat@suse.com | --- Comment #9 from Frederic Crozat 2012-01-16 17:30:46 UTC --- Some services might needs a service to be enabled and running (ie Wants, not just After) to start/work properly. Therefore the need for Wants. But in most cases, After= is enough. Current configuration between postfix.service and mail-transfer-agent.target looks ok to me. Werner, I don't understand your last question. It looks like, on the contrary to your question, that systemd enables mysql because it is installed and wanted by postfix (which is why this bug was opened). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693#c11 Frederic Crozat changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|fcrozat@suse.com | --- Comment #11 from Frederic Crozat 2012-01-17 09:42:14 UTC --- Systemd separates the dependencies (using Requires / Wants / Requisites / BindTo ) from the ordering (After / Before) and checks for services to be really running for its dependencies check. Adding Requires implies starting a unit must have all units listed as Required as started (therefore, they will be started without having to enable them manually). Adding Wants will do te same as Requires, except a dependency service not starting will not prevent the "main" service to start. Most of the time, Wants is what is needed (but it can enable services which are not enabled by sysadmin). Otherwise, After= (or Before=) is the way to go. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693#c13 --- Comment #13 from Frederic Crozat 2012-01-17 10:27:17 UTC --- it looks like postfix.service is buggy, since it is using Wants. It should only use After= IMO. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738693#c15 Frederic Crozat changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |yuvalery@gmail.com --- Comment #15 from Frederic Crozat 2012-01-30 08:53:10 UTC --- *** Bug 743125 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=743125 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.