https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c Kyrill Detinov changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Basesystem |YaST2 Version|Milestone 3 |Milestone 5 AssignedTo|sbrabec@suse.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com QAContact|qa@suse.de |jsrain@suse.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c2 --- Comment #2 from Dinar Valeev 2011-09-09 13:22:40 UTC --- Packages to test http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/k0da:/branches:/YaST:/Head/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c4 --- Comment #4 from Dinar Valeev 2011-09-09 13:48:52 UTC --- just tested it with DUD on 12.1 Milestone 5. It ё letter displayed correctly created request id 81689 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c zj jia changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |yast2-maintainers@suse.de |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c7 --- Comment #7 from Dinar Valeev 2011-09-12 08:12:03 UTC --- well, I don't have any experience with console fonts. If it is reported that current default font is broken, and another one is just works, why just don't replace it? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c9 Stanislav Brabec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P4 - Low Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Comment #9 from Stanislav Brabec 2011-09-13 18:06:28 CEST --- Confirming. Fonts Cyr_a8x*.psf don't contain ё and several other Serbian, Macedonian, Ukrainian and Belorussian letters. Guessing from time stamps, the bug exists here at least 12 years. These files come from suse-add.tar.bz2, which is not a part of the official kbd package. Maybe it is a good time to drop it. Font UniCyr_8x16.psf does not have this problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c11 --- Comment #11 from Stanislav Brabec 2011-09-13 18:44:20 CEST --- Well, nearly exactly the same files and exactly the same looking fonts affected by the same problem are also part of the official kbd package: Cyr_a8x*.psfu -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c13 --- Comment #13 from Stanislav Brabec 2011-09-14 17:01:08 CEST --- comment 12: Yes. kbd-1.15.3 was submitted with request id 82136. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c15 --- Comment #15 from Stanislav Brabec 2011-09-19 18:40:11 CEST --- The Cyr_a8x*.psf fonts are not broken. They just contain accent-less subset of Cyrillic. But they may be considered as obsolete nowadays, when nearly all consoles use UTF-8. There is a lot of possibly obsolete stuff both in the upstream kbd package and downstream openSUSE kbd packages (suse-add.tar.bz2 and kbd_fonts.tar.bz2). This stuff was added during the early days of S.u.S.E. distro and never touched later. Maybe it is a good time to drop it or at least subset of it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c17 Jiří Suchomel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |dvaleev@suse.com --- Comment #17 from Jiří Suchomel 2011-09-20 06:17:51 UTC --- Yes, I think so. Should all Cyr_a8x16.psfu occurences be replaced with UniCyr_8x16.psf? Or is there some usage for the old font? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c19 Jiří Suchomel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |dvaleev@suse.com --- Comment #19 from Jiří Suchomel 2011-09-20 09:41:41 UTC --- I meant it from YaST perspective: as you can see, consolefonts.ycp file is using the old font for other languages as well. So my question is, if all places with Cyr_a8x16.psfu in consolefonts.ycp should be replaced. (In reply to comment #18)

Should I submit SR again?

I'll submit the package myself once we clear this question. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c21 Stanislav Brabec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED InfoProvider|dvaleev@suse.com | --- Comment #21 from Stanislav Brabec 2011-09-20 15:08:17 CEST --- I already compared them. Cyr lacks not only ё but also characters needed at least for Serbian, Macedonian, Ukrainian and Belorussian. It contain just a basic Cyrillic characters without accents and nothing more. I doubt it is sufficient anywhere. So I guess that it should be replaced for all languages without exceptions. I am thinking about creating kbd-obsolete package and moving probably obsolete non-Unicode fonts there. It can be a first step before dropping them. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c23 --- Comment #23 from Kyrill Detinov 2011-09-20 17:54:01 MSD ---

What about the 'screen map' values, currently set mostly to 'trivial' for cyrilic fonts?

I see in /etc/sysconfig/console: "Note: If your console is in utf-8 mode you don't need this." I don't use any 'screen map' value, and it works OK. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c25 --- Comment #25 from Stanislav Brabec 2011-09-20 18:34:32 CEST --- Review of keymaps from suse-add.tar.bz2: keymaps/i386/azerty/lt.std.map: Unique. keymaps/i386/qwerty/Pl02.map: Unique but similar to pl2.map and pl3.map from kbd-1.15.3. keymaps/i386/qwerty/br-abnt-alt.map: Very similar to br-abnt.map from kbd-1.15.3. keymaps/i386/qwerty/br-abnt2-old.map: Unique, but kbd-1.15.3 contains another br-abnt2.map. keymaps/i386/qwerty/cn-latin1.map: French qwerty keyboard, unique. keymaps/i386/qwerty/cz-lat2-us.map: Just another Czech keymap. keymaps/i386/qwerty/ru1_win-utf.map: Russian Windows keyboard, different from all ruwin_*-UTF-8.map from kbd-1.15.3. keymaps/i386/qwerty/tj_alt-UTF8.map: Exactly equal to tj_alt-UTF8.map from kbd-1.15.3. keymaps/i386/qwerty/us-acentos-old.map: US keyboard with support for some accented characters. Different from us-acentos.map from kbd-1.15.3. keymaps/i386/qwertz/ro-latin2.map: Romanian keyboard. Different from all ro*.map keymaps from kbd-1.15.3. keymaps/include/*: All files there are unique, but I do not know where they are included. unimaps/cyr-alt.uni: Surprisingly different from cyralt.uni from kbd-1.15.3. unimaps/lt-brim.uni: Unique map for lt-brim font. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c27 --- Comment #27 from Stanislav Brabec 2011-09-20 19:50:20 CEST --- Update for kbd_fonts.tar.bz2 misc: 8x14alt is very similar to alt-8x14 (just a glyphs shift) 8x16alt corresponds to alt-8x16 or altc-8x16, but glyphs are different -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c29 --- Comment #29 from Kyrill Detinov 2011-09-21 13:42:46 MSD ---

Maybe I leave the old font (Cyr_a8x16.psfu) for ru_RU.KOI8-R locale, althought I do not know if it makes sense.

Even if I use ru_RU.KOI8-R locale I need Ёё. I think it would be better to replace Cyr_a8x16.psfu everywhere. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c31 --- Comment #31 from Bernhard Wiedemann 2011-09-21 13:00:07 CEST --- This is an autogenerated message for OBS integration: This bug (713332) was mentioned in https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/84101 Factory / yast2-country -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c33 --- Comment #33 from Ilya Chernykh 2011-11-21 11:30:41 UTC --- People report that under 12.1 if to select Gnome install the Russian console font is not installed at all so people see boxes instead of letters.... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c35 --- Comment #35 from Ilya Chernykh 2011-11-21 11:44:30 UTC --- It seems the Russian locale is completely broken after default install. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c37 --- Comment #37 from Jiří Suchomel 2011-11-21 11:57:00 UTC --- (In reply to comment #36)

I wonder why it is so difficult to get rid of all problems with non-English languages after all?

If this is really bug 722739, than it is a regression in 12.1, that some packages are not installed automatically. Fix is already prepared, however it did not make it into final version of 12.1. Anyway, this is one bug and not "all problems with non-English languages in 15 years". I doubt all problems might be summed in one bug report and I also doubt that 'all problems' are not solved after years. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713332#c39 --- Comment #39 from Jiří Suchomel 2011-11-21 13:51:57 UTC --- Did you try to install packages I suggested? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.