http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725 User coolo@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725#c2 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED CC| |pgajdos@novell.com Info Provider|coolo@novell.com | Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #2 from Stephan Kulow 2009-06-08 02:40:21 MDT --- Tellico was updated last in february: Mon Feb 16 11:46:00 CET 2009 - pgajdos@suse.cz - update to 1.3.5: upstream is always our package's translations, not some random SVN snapshots. You have two options: 1. File a bug against tellico package. If it's severe, the package needs to be fixed 2. Wait for the next tellico release -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725 User elchevive68@gmail.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725#c4 --- Comment #4 from Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 2009-06-08 12:02:33 MDT --- Hi, An addendum to clarify more: openSUSE last update of update-*-kde Revision 47389 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs] Modified Fri Jun 5 08:37:38 2009 UTC (3 days, 7 hours ago) by keichwa this page shows the last revision versus an imediatly older, showing that the string "An ancient Egyptian card deck." was added as translated: https://forgesvn1.novell.com/viewsvn/suse-i18n/trunk/lcn/pt_BR/po/update-desktop-files-kde.pt_BR.po?r1=47145&r2=47389

From the 'upstream' KDE:

pt_BR last revision Revision 977503 - (view) (download) (as text) (annotate) - [select for diffs] Modified Thu Jun 4 13:32:43 2009 UTC (4 days, 2 hours ago) by scripty That revision shows a fuzzy message for the string analyzed: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/pt_BR/messages/kdegames/desktop_kdegames.po?revision=977503&view=markup pt last revision Revision 977503 - (view) (download) (as text) (annotate) - [select for diffs] Modified Thu Jun 4 13:32:43 2009 UTC (4 days, 2 hours ago) by scripty shows a translated message for that string which became the translated in openSUSE as pt_BR: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/pt/messages/kdegames/desktop_kdegames.po?revision=977503&view=markup The above shows that the script used for generate and update the update-desktop-files has some bug as it looks for translated desktop files in pt_BR and if there is no translation it uses the pt version and add it as translated. Maybe because pt is a fallback for pt_BR. If the behavior of the script is like that: in the following merges, when the pt_BR upstream is translated, the script replaces automatically this strings (pt -> pt_BR) then no problems. For now, I've translated this message upstream and will wait until next merge to see what happens. Regards, -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725 User ke@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725#c6 --- Comment #6 from Karl Eichwalder 2009-07-20 00:14:39 MDT --- Thanks for verifying! -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725 User ke@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725#c8 Karl Eichwalder changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|ke@novell.com |coolo@novell.com --- Comment #8 from Karl Eichwalder 2009-09-10 03:28:48 MDT --- coolo, can you please check both these issues (pulling in KDE 4.3 and avoiding pt translations for pt_BR). BTW, for pt_BR users we should set LANGUAGE=pt_BR:pt. You must not do a low level merge and mix pt_BR and pt translations in the same .po file. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725 User elchevive68@gmail.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725#c10 --- Comment #10 from Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 2009-09-14 14:56:07 MDT --- Hi coolo, Thanks for you patience, I'm talking about two different problems: 1st: It uses pt versions when no pt_BR was found. Example: u-d-f-kde-services.pt_BR.po: /share/kde4/services/kcm_networkmanagement.desktop msgctxt "Comment(kcm_networkmanagement.desktop)" msgid "Add, Edit and Remove network connections" msgstr "Gerir as Ligações de Rede" pt upstream: #: plasma/applets/networkmanager/settings/config/kcm_networkmanagement.desktop:30 msgctxt "Comment" msgid "Add, Edit and Remove network connections" msgstr "Adicionar, Editar e Remover as Ligações de Rede" pt_BR upstream: #: plasma/applets/networkmanager/settings/config/kcm_networkmanagement.desktop:30 #, fuzzy #| msgctxt "Comment" #| msgid "Manage Network Connections" msgctxt "Comment" msgid "Add, Edit and Remove network connections" msgstr "Gerencie as conexões de rede" As you could see it is right now fuzzy upstream (pt_BR) [gerir=gerenciar(manage), ecrã=tela(screen), rato=mouse(mouse), ficheiro=arquivo(file) are examples of words that diferentiate pt from pt_BR. In this case: pt/pt_BR(english)] diffs for when this string was updated upstream: pt: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/pt/messages/playground-base/desktop_playground-base.po?view=diff&r1=1017836&r2=1018366&diff_format=h pt_BR: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/pt_BR/messages/playground-base/desktop_playground-base.po?view=diff&r1=1017692&r2=1018374&diff_format=h 2nd:It don't update the existing translation from upstream: I thought that the translations of u-d-f was taken upstream until sometime during the translation round where we could/should fix wrong translations and translate the missing ones. In my example in comment 7 i'm guessing why our file contains 'Letras' yet as It was translated different upstream. Regards -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725 User elchevive68@gmail.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725#c12 --- Comment #12 from Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 2009-09-15 07:32:31 MDT --- Hi, About 1st ok. About 2nd let me show you stable release instead. KDE 4.1.1 (openSUSE 11.1): http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.1.1/kdegames/kpat/kpat.desktop?revision=853753&view=markup KDE 4.3.1 (openSUSE Factory): http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.3.1/kdegames/kpat/kpat.desktop?revision=1016550&view=markup If I understand correctly, Name[xx]= appears only if its different from the original name, as we can see in KDE 4.1.1 (KPaciência) and we don't see in KDE 4.3.1 as its the same as the original name -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725 User elchevive68@gmail.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725#c14 --- Comment #14 from Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 2009-09-15 09:55:43 MDT --- The question is the one in comment #7: Some strings of u-d-f-kde.pot did not get updated when upstream update (at least not for KDE4.3) And the examples are apps names like KLetters, KPat, etc wich I think should come from upstream. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725 User elchevive68@gmail.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510725#c16 --- Comment #16 from Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 2009-09-15 12:09:38 MDT --- Ok, Just for curiosity, how much strings we are talking about? Regards -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.