[Bug 244605] New: Fix dual boot - important feature hidden by too many levels
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 Summary: Fix dual boot - important feature hidden by too many levels Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: unspecified Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Basesystem AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: arahne@arahne.si QAContact: qa@suse.de Industry reality requests that most Linux computers works as dual boot. On most new computers, SUSE is unable to resize NTFS partition, it says it needs to be checked, even if it was shutdown properly. So we need to delete Windows, install SUSE, make FAT32 partition during SUSE installation, and then install Windows. Windows of course wipes MBR with its own loader, so we need to restore dual boot. This is currenty possible, but is very complicated. So if we compare the probablity of having bad RAM, or have to restore MBR, you will agree that it is much more likely that we need ot restore MBR. RESTORE DUAL BOOT should be available as one of the boot options from the installation DVD. If the computer would only have one Linux installed, then RESTORE DUAL BOOT would look into linux partition, read grup or lilo settings, and rewrite it to MBR, without any confusing questions. If you would have several versions of Linux installed, it should ask from which partition to load the boot options, and then restore that. This would be a big plus for some customers who need to resinstall the windows, and then find themselves unable to boot into Linux again. Going halfway through the installation and then hit some hidden "other" button to enter repair mode, and more questions later, or even boot installed system, go in yast, system, bootloader, change timeout (also well hidden) and write to disk - this is all much too complicated. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 chrubis@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team- |locilka@novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | Severity|Normal |Enhancement -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 locilka@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|locilka@novell.com |yast2-maintainers@suse.de -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 aj@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |arahne@arahne.si ------- Comment #2 from aj@novell.com 2007-02-14 08:33 MST ------- What kind of problems do you have with openSUSE 10.2 NTFS resize? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 ------- Comment #3 from snwint@novell.com 2007-02-14 08:35 MST ------- http://interopalliance.org SCNR -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 ------- Comment #4 from snwint@novell.com 2007-02-14 08:45 MST ------- Ok, more to the point: I think it is less complex than Dusan describes. IMO it would be sufficient to set the 'active' flag back to the linux partition. The MS mbr boot loader is quite capable to boot other systems, it just doesn't provide an interactive interface. It wouldn't catch variants where grub was installed into mbr. But AFAIK we don't do that for quite some time now, so I think most cases would be caught this way. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 arahne@arahne.si changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|arahne@arahne.si | ------- Comment #5 from arahne@arahne.si 2007-02-14 09:27 MST ------- (In reply to comment #2)
What kind of problems do you have with openSUSE 10.2 NTFS resize?
Actually, it was mostly openSUSE 10.1, as I am afraid to use 10.2 in industrial situations. The partitition resizing during the installation fails, saying that NTFS is not clean, and that you need to run chkdsk /f The computers were all new, mainly Dell or HP laptops, Windows was XP home or professional. Windows was shutdown properly, boots properly, and chkdsk /f does not help. It looked to me as if MS specifically changed something in NTFS in order to confuse partition resizer and make our life miserable. Sorry I can not provide more details, since we must usually install the system to the customer in short time, on site, and there is no room for experiments or testing. If the partition can't be resized, it is wiped out on the spot, followed by a loss of several hours to reinstall Windows (and restore dual boot). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 aj@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 aj@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |f-perret@tiscali.fr ------- Comment #6 from aj@novell.com 2007-05-07 01:36 MST ------- *** Bug 265279 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 aj@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |aj@novell.com AssignedTo|aj@novell.com |snwint@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEW ------- Comment #7 from aj@novell.com 2007-05-07 01:37 MST ------- Steffen, can this be done? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244605 ------- Comment #8 from snwint@novell.com 2007-05-07 04:00 MST ------- In the scope of comment 4, yes. I'm planning to add an (experimental) partiton table parser to the boot loader in 10.3 anyway. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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