http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c yang xiaoyu changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |xyyang@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |yast2-maintainers@suse.de |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c1 --- Comment #1 from Mathias Homann 2010-07-26 08:27:16 UTC --- i noticed that having composite eye candy switched off makes this happen less often. not sure about that tho, need to observe more closely. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c3 --- Comment #3 from Mathias Homann 2010-07-30 16:29:59 UTC --- I'm having the impression that those freezes happen (among other occasions) when there's a huge area of screen estate to be updated (like, for example, running firefox maximized and closing a tab). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c5 Sven Burmeister changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |sven.burmeister@gmx.net --- Comment #5 from Sven Burmeister 2010-08-02 13:36:46 UTC --- I think this bug should be reported upstream since it does not seem to be opensuse specific. If there is a fix/patch avalable upstream, please report back in order to include it into the openSUSE KDE version. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c7 Vadim Krevs changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |vkrevs@yahoo.com --- Comment #7 from Vadim Krevs 2010-08-06 07:28:16 UTC --- Something similar happens on my Dell Studio 1737 laptop after upgrade to 11.3 x86_64, but not as often as described in the bug report. Sometimes, during video playback, the desktop appear to freeze for 1-2 seconds (mouse stops moving, keyboard does not respond) however video playback continues uninterrupted. Nothing suspicious in dmesg or /var/log/messages. I've tried to use top and iotop to spot what may the cause and it seems that each time the freeze occurs, one of the jbd2/sdaX-8 processes/threads was active. So I wonder if the problem is related to the issues talked about here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ3Mw http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ3OQ Apparently there is a kernel patch for 2.6.35 - perhaps it could be backported to 2.6.34? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c8 --- Comment #8 from Mathias Homann 2010-08-09 12:22:35 UTC --- pri 5 "none" for a bug that cripples a lot of users? what the... ??? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c10 Stefan Tittel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bugreports@tittel.net --- Comment #10 from Stefan Tittel 2010-08-10 14:36:44 UTC --- I can also confirm this bug on the following configuration: openSUSE 11.3 x86-64 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 NVIDIA nForce 650 chipset 4 GiB RAM using KDE 4.4.4 (official packages) and proprietary NVIDIA driver The bug actually occurs less often than "every few minutes", but it occurs nonetheless. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c Mathias Homann changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Platform|x86 |i686 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c12 --- Comment #12 from Mathias Homann 2010-08-11 13:40:01 UTC --- no idea, i have a 32bit system. BUT i managed to find a workaround: uninstall - deactivate all desktop search gizmos... the background file indexing pouts too much of an IO load on the system, which triggers the bug... deactivate nepomuk and strigi, uninstall tracker, and my laptop's usable again... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c14 --- Comment #14 from Vadim Krevs 2010-08-11 14:11:59 UTC --- Re #12: I've deactivated all search engines immediately after upgrading to 11.3 and before experiencing the slowdowns described in #7. So I have high hopes for this :-) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c16 --- Comment #16 from Vadim Krevs 2010-08-11 17:46:14 UTC --- Hmm, is there a missing rpm? # rpm -ivh kernel-desktop-2.6.34.2-0.1.x86_64.rpm kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.34.2-0.1.x86_64.rpm error: Failed dependencies: kernel-devel = 2.6.34.2-0.1 is needed by kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.34.2-0.1.x86_64 # rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-firmware-20100617-2.2.noarch kernel-default-devel-2.6.34-12.3.x86_64 kernel-syms-2.6.34-12.3.x86_64 kernel-desktop-2.6.34-12.3.x86_64 kernel-xen-devel-2.6.34-12.3.x86_64 kernel-debug-devel-2.6.34-12.3.x86_64 kernel-docs-2.6.34-12.3.noarch kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.34-12.3.x86_64 kernel-source-2.6.34-12.3.noarch kernel-devel-2.6.34-12.3.noarch kerneloops-0.12-35.2.x86_64 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c18 --- Comment #18 from Vadim Krevs 2010-08-11 20:17:40 UTC --- Thanks - I did need the kernel-devel package in order to build the fglrx driver. Anyhow, I've installed the updated kernel, rebooted, logged on into KDE and kicked off a script that duplicates the 11.3 DVD iso image using cp in a for loop. Beagle is also running (and trying to reindex something in my home folder). Result - UI definitely feels more responsive than with the stock 11.3 kernel. No mouse freezes, I can drag windows around the screen with no repaint delays, cp's CPU usage is only around 10-12%. Also tried watching a video - no freezes (as described in #7) either. Looks like something changed for the better. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c20 --- Comment #20 from Stefan Tittel 2010-08-23 16:17:28 UTC --- Speaking of the kernel update: Is it tracked somewhere else? There is no updated package yet in update/11.3-test and also no SWAMP id has been requested/published in this bugreport. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c22 Swamp Workflow Management changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard| |maint:running:35398:moderat | |e --- Comment #22 from Swamp Workflow Management 2010-08-24 15:23:37 UTC --- The SWAMPID for this issue is 35398. This issue was rated as moderate. Please submit fixed packages until 2010-09-07. When done, please reassign the bug to security-team@suse.de. Patchinfo will be handled by security team. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c24 Russ Fineman changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |upscope@nwi.net --- Comment #24 from Russ Fineman 2010-08-27 15:37:25 UTC --- Where is the kernel update mentioned in posts above. I have the 2.6.34.4-6-default kernel and also the same version desktop. I still see these delays. I turned of the thermal monitoring in ~/.nvidia-settings-rc and it stopped the delays for a while. after logging out and back in everything froze as I opened NVIDIA X Server Settings to check change. Had to power down to restart, and immediately changed GPU monitoring back to yes. So far no lockup but delays are back openSUSE 11.3 KDE 4.5.0 Nvidia GeForce 8400GS NVIDIA Driver 256-35 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c26 Michael Kußmann changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |michi@outx.de --- Comment #26 from Michael Kußmann 2010-09-03 14:28:24 UTC --- I just installed the kernel "kernel-desktop-2.6.34.4-0.1.1.x86_64.rpm" from /update/11.3 repository. The Problem is still there: Random X freezes. Sometimes they last over 5 seconds and occur in intervalls under 20 sec. I can't track it down to a specific Reason. It also occurs when the system is completely idle. It occurs with the nv, nouveau and nvidia driver... even in vesa mode. While the freezing occurs Xorg uses 100% CPU (on one core). My System: NVIDIA GeForce GT240 ( or 9500GT tried both ) MSI K9N SLI V2 ( nForce 570LT SLI Chipset ) Installing Kernel 2.6.35rc3 from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/v2.6.35/openSUSE_Factory/ fixes the Problem. Who does pack that kernel? When I install Kernel 2.6.36rc3 from HEAD repository i can't compile the nvidia driver because of syntax errors in multiple header files. But the nv driver runs fine. With nouveau the desktop is a bit unresponsive but nothing like the freezes with 2.6.34 kernel. Is there a fix available for 2.6.34 kernel? I'm kind of new here, but as status says it is RESOLVED/FIXED i guess there's a fix somewhere? P.S.: Tried the default kernel as well. Same result. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c28 --- Comment #28 from Michael Kußmann 2010-09-05 12:12:03 UTC --- I filed a new report as for my problem seems not to be related to this one. See bug #637212. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c30 Swamp Workflow Management changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|maint:running:35398:moderat |maint:running:35398:moderat |e |e maint:released:11.3:35403 --- Comment #30 from Swamp Workflow Management 2010-09-08 13:09:07 UTC --- Update released for: kernel-debug, kernel-debug-base, kernel-debug-base-debuginfo, kernel-debug-debuginfo, kernel-debug-debugsource, kernel-debug-devel, kernel-debug-devel-debuginfo, kernel-default, kernel-default-base, kernel-default-base-debuginfo, kernel-default-debuginfo, kernel-default-debugsource, kernel-default-devel, kernel-default-devel-debuginfo, kernel-desktop, kernel-desktop-base, kernel-desktop-base-debuginfo, kernel-desktop-debuginfo, kernel-desktop-debugsource, kernel-desktop-devel, kernel-desktop-devel-debuginfo, kernel-devel, kernel-ec2-devel, kernel-pae, kernel-pae-base, kernel-pae-base-debuginfo, kernel-pae-debuginfo, kernel-pae-debugsource, kernel-pae-devel, kernel-pae-devel-debuginfo, kernel-source, kernel-source-vanilla, kernel-syms, kernel-trace, kernel-trace-base, kernel-trace-base-debuginfo, kernel-trace-debuginfo, kernel-trace-debugsource, kernel-trace-devel, kernel-trace-devel-debuginfo, kernel-vanilla, kernel-vanilla-base, kernel-vanilla-base-debuginfo, kernel-vanilla-debuginfo, kernel-vanilla-debugsource, kernel-vanilla-devel, kernel-vanilla-devel-debuginfo, kernel-vmi-devel, kernel-xen, kernel-xen-base, kernel-xen-base-debuginfo, kernel-xen-debuginfo, kernel-xen-debugsource, kernel-xen-devel, kernel-xen-devel-debuginfo, preload-kmp-default, preload-kmp-desktop Products: openSUSE 11.3 (debug, i586, x86_64) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c31 Mathias Homann changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #31 from Mathias Homann 2010-09-08 14:48:05 UTC --- I installed this patch, and that stopped my external keyboard from working. it also uninstalled ndiswrapper and its kernel module. not good. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c33 --- Comment #33 from SA SA 2010-09-08 21:43:57 UTC --- My apologies for not understanding how this works but does this mean there is a live update - if so is it the kernel bugfix 3038 / kernel 2.6.34.4-0.1.1? the list of bugfixes doesn't mention the nvidia freeze fix... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c35 Vadim Krevs changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #35 from Vadim Krevs 2010-09-09 07:17:27 UTC --- Reopening as per comment 19. Random mouse freezes that were fixed by kernel-desktop-2.6.34.2-0.1 from http://labs.suse.cz/jslaby/bug-625339/ are back with kernel-desktop-2.6.34.4-0.1.1. I've reinstalled kernel-desktop-2.6.34.2-0.1 and the issue went away immediately. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c37 --- Comment #37 from Mathias Homann 2010-09-09 07:41:24 UTC --- additionally, the url in #35 returns err404. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c39 Jiri Slaby changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |patrick.klatt@t-online.de --- Comment #39 from Jiri Slaby 2010-09-09 11:32:02 UTC --- (In reply to comment #35)

Reopening as per comment 19.

Random mouse freezes that were fixed by kernel-desktop-2.6.34.2-0.1 from http://labs.suse.cz/jslaby/bug-625339/ are back with kernel-desktop-2.6.34.4-0.1.1.

I've reinstalled kernel-desktop-2.6.34.2-0.1 and the issue went away immediately.

The patch did it into 2.6.34.4. So we have yet another bug (a regression) introduced in between 2.6.34.2 and 2.6.34.4. How the freezes look like? Is it when I/O load is high? Is it when CPU load is high? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c41 Werner Flamme changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |werner.flamme@ufz.de --- Comment #41 from Werner Flamme 2010-09-10 06:43:29 UTC --- Just my 2 ct: on my box, uname -a returns "Linux rz36 2.6.34.4-0.1-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2010-08-20 19:21:29 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux" and the freezes have not gone... I can't confirm that there is a connection to a desktop search monster. I configured tracker, nepomuk, and strigi to not run at all (why does this crap run by default?) and to use no directories ;-) but my box still freezes. I can't confirm that this only happens when a big portion of the screen is updated - except you call a card movement in kpat a big portion of the screen ;-). But it even freezes while I enter this text... Same thing at home (I'll never ever play kpat in the office!). Both boxes running nvidia graphics with the driver from the nvidia repo. With nouveau, the box stalled and there was no way to get it living again exept pressing the reset button. Using the nvidia driver reduced the problem to several seconds off work - sometime thrice a minute. Regards, Werner -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c43 --- Comment #43 from Vadim Krevs 2010-09-10 14:36:28 UTC --- My notebook uses an ATI Radeon HD 3650 card, and I've already tried changing styles. No joy. The work desktop with an NVIDIA 7600GS card never had this particular issue (and the 30% XOrg CPU usage got fixed by the latest NVIDIA driver beta http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2314331). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c45 --- Comment #45 from Vadim Krevs 2010-09-10 20:38:15 UTC --- (In reply to comment #39)

(In reply to comment #35)

...

Reopening as per comment 19.

Random mouse freezes that were fixed by kernel-desktop-2.6.34.2-0.1 from http://labs.suse.cz/jslaby/bug-625339/ are back with kernel-desktop-2.6.34.4-0.1.1.

I've reinstalled kernel-desktop-2.6.34.2-0.1 and the issue went away immediately.

The patch did it into 2.6.34.4. So we have yet another bug (a regression) introduced in between 2.6.34.2 and 2.6.34.4.

How the freezes look like? Is it when I/O load is high? Is it when CPU load is high?

Basically mouse appears not to respond and screen content appear to freeze for 1-2 secs. I am not doing anything special - just browsing web pages and scrolling down using the mouse wheel. The notebook does not seem to be doing any CPU/HDD-intensive activity before the freeze (according to top and iotop before the freeze). After the freeze is over, iotop briefly shows a "jbd2/sdXX" generating some I/O, immediately followed by a "flush" task generating some I/O. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c47 --- Comment #47 from Mathias Homann 2010-09-11 19:10:23 UTC --- this in connection with https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638200 makes my laptop basically unusable until I dualboot into windows vista. not nice. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c49 --- Comment #49 from Werner Flamme 2010-09-13 08:22:27 UTC --- @Oskar, comment #46: Yes, after disabling the GPU temerature display in gkrellm the freezing seems to disappear. At least my comp wasn't freezing in the last 40 minutes since I turned this off. I do net see an error in nvidia-settings when looking at the GLX settings. Direct rendering, GLX 1.4, openGL nVidia GeForce 9500 GT/PCI/SSE2, Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 256.53. Plus there is no freezing when looking at the GPU temp in nvidia-settings. @Frank, comment #48: Right you are :-( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c51 --- Comment #51 from Jiri Slaby 2010-09-15 07:04:15 UTC --- (In reply to comment #50)

fixes the symptoms of this issue for me.

Well, symptoms of this issue were system freezes, not input device stuttering. In any case, everybody involved in this bug, could you try the kernel from: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.3/openSUSE_11.... (except those with nvidia problems, this won't help them)? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c53 --- Comment #53 from Wolf Duttlinger 2010-09-15 18:24:38 UTC --- (In reply to comment #51)

In any case, everybody involved in this bug, could you try the kernel from: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.3/openSUSE_11.... (except those with nvidia problems, this won't help them)?

I previously circumvented the problem (in my case I would say it was "input device stuttering) by echo -1 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-4.2.2/power/autosuspend after installing above kernel, I did remove this from /etc/rc.d/boot.local, rebooted - and stuttering/freeze is gone! Success! Question though - not being to knowledgeable with bugzilla - I still have my problem with the dual headed display - (Comment 44) - what do I do? Open a new issue? Thanks Wolf -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c55 --- Comment #55 from Vadim Krevs 2010-09-17 08:07:55 UTC --- (In reply to comment #51)

(In reply to comment #50)

...

fixes the symptoms of this issue for me.

Well, symptoms of this issue were system freezes, not input device stuttering.

In any case, everybody involved in this bug, could you try the kernel from: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.3/openSUSE_11.... (except those with nvidia problems, this won't help them)?

The kernel from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.3/openSUSE_11.... works fine for me. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c57 Mathias Homann changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #57 from Mathias Homann 2010-09-18 07:34:57 UTC --- this bug was not "initially about i915", since I was the one who filed it, and I don't have i915 graphics in my laptop... and the freezing is still there. last night everything worked fine, this morning the freezes are back. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c59 Jiri Slaby changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|i915: system freezes up for |nvidia: system freezes up |1-2 seconds roughly every |for 1-2 seconds roughly |few minutes |every few minutes --- Comment #59 from Jiri Slaby 2010-09-20 09:15:57 UTC --- (In reply to comment #57)

this bug was not "initially about i915", since I was the one who filed it, and I don't have i915 graphics in my laptop...

Sorry I messed up. It was nvidia.

and the freezing is still there. last night everything worked fine, this morning the freezes are back.

Do you use some graphics monitor as per comment #54? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c61 --- Comment #61 from Werner Flamme 2010-09-20 10:41:42 UTC --- Since I deactivated the display of GPU temperature in gkrellm, I had no freezes. I'm using standard kernels (from the update source), currently 2.6.34.4-0.1-desktop, but did install 2.6.34.7-0.2.2.x86_64 in the meantime... Now I'm looking forward to see whether there are still freezes with the new kernel and the GPU temp. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c63 --- Comment #63 from SA SA 2010-09-21 15:43:12 UTC --- I'd comment I had the freezes before I ran nvidia settings... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c65 Mariano Alvarez changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |malfer@telefonica.net --- Comment #65 from Mariano Alvarez 2010-09-21 17:52:37 UTC --- I had the same problem. Systems freezes ramdonly and more frecuently if I start a 3d game like bzflag or watch a video. My system: Intel Core2 Quad Q6600, nVidia GeForce 8400 GS with the nvidia driver. The system freezes too with the nouveau driver, but it is so inestable with the nouveau driver that I am not sure if is the same problem. I don't know where to get the 2.6.35 kernel. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c67 Flan Suse changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |windows2linux@zoho.com --- Comment #67 from Flan Suse 2010-09-23 01:41:26 UTC --- I have the same problem with my 11.3 system and a Nvidia card. This fixed the problem for me on my x64 11.3 install with the proprietary nvidia driver. Step 1.) Switch to TTY2 (CTRL + ALT + F2) and login as root. Step 2.) Enter runlevel 3: telinit 3 Step 3.) Unload the nvidia module: rmmod nvidia Step 4.) Enter runlevel 5: telinit 5 Step 5.) Log in normally, and observe no more delay or lag issues. The nvidia module is automatically reloaded when entering runlevel 5. Don't forget to log out of the root session in TTY2! I have NO IDEA why this works, but it does for me. After doing these steps, the problem is solved as long as the machine remains on. If I reboot I have to redo these same steps to fix the delay and lag issues. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c69 --- Comment #69 from Mariano Alvarez 2010-09-25 19:57:50 UTC --- After upgrading to 2.6.34.7-0.2 my system continues with freezes, but not so often. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c71 --- Comment #71 from Flan Suse 2010-09-28 02:41:39 UTC --- (In reply to comment #70)

@Flan Suse: I am stumped, but it appears that alleviates my problems with freezing too. I've been doing it for a couple of days and haven't had freezing. This makes absolutely no sense to me. Could it be psychosomatic? A placebo fix?

I am totally clueless why this works. It could be random chance, for all that I know. Maybe the freeze bug is somehow related to how the module is loaded with this kernel? Maybe when we unload the module manually and ask the system to "try again" it has a better chance of loading it "properly"? Maybe we're just getting better luck with out "coin toss"? I don't want to install a kernel of the day, for a few reasons. So I hope the fix comes to kernel 2.6.34.x eventually. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c73 --- Comment #73 from Andre Koch 2010-10-02 11:57:49 UTC --- Freezes came back after upgrading to kernel 2.6.34.7-21, so I switched to the newest one from the update repo (2.6.34.7-0.3.1) which works well so far. However, I am still experiencing freezes when i use a GPU temperature monitor. I can confirm that reloading or reinstalling the nvidia driver does help sometimes, though not always. In cases when it does help, even temperature monitoring doesn't affect the system anymore. Maybe I'll try out the new kernel 2.6.34.7-22-1 from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Kernel:/openSUSE-11.3/openSUSE_11.... later on, to see if the freezes are fixed again in that one. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c75 --- Comment #75 from Frank Vanderham 2010-10-06 03:33:56 UTC --- (In reply to comment #73)

Freezes came back after upgrading to kernel 2.6.34.7-21, so I switched to the newest one from the update repo (2.6.34.7-0.3.1) which works well so far.

Unfortunately, on my system, upgrading to 2.6.34.7-0.3 makes no difference - still freezing like winter every so often ever since upgrading to 11.3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c77 --- Comment #77 from Flan Suse 2010-10-14 16:13:22 UTC --- Even with kernel 2.6.34.7-21 and 2.6.34.7-0.3.1, with the latest stable driver from Nvidia, 260.19.12, the problem still persists, jus as randomly as before. I'm not even using KDE on this machine. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c79 --- Comment #79 from Richard Creighton 2010-10-14 18:01:12 UTC --- (In reply to comment #78)

Does increasing the hardlock limit as described below help?

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq/...

On 2010-10-14 Vadim Krevs offered the following:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c78

--- Comment #78 from Vadim Krevs 2010-10-14 16:25:43 UTC --- Does increasing the hardlock limit as described below help?

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/information-new-users/unreviewed-how-faq /447481-hardlocklimit-256-11-3-install-default-may-cause-open-office-issues .html

I was unaware of this thread, however, I came to the same conclusion as the posters, the LOCKS limits were/are too low. They seem to be set at @256 by default which is probably based upon a default memory of 512k or possibly 1G. However, I have 3G and many people have even more and I think that setting is probably low so when people start running KDE or other DE's that allow multiple screens and multi-tasking operations routinely and many of these tasks launch multiple threads you are going to run out of 'room' for processes and have to start locking (read waiting) for things to finish up before new things can launch or things that were sleeping can be reawakened and resumed. So, things like updating screens get delays because they are put on hold. Well, most machines have the memory and horsepower to handle more than 256 job/threads/memory requirements at once so don't need to be locked down so tightly IMO, so I raised the limit on my machine to 2048 Hardlimit and 512 softlimit both with @ which makes it an absolute limit in Kbytes rather than a % of memory "Limit the size of the memory that a single process may lock in physical memory (thus preventing it to be swapped out). Hard limit: Can not be increased by non-root. This value corresponds to ulimit -Hl Parameter is in percent of physical memory (unless you prefix it by @, in which case it means kilobytes), 0 means no adjustment." It has helped a lot and the problem is virtually gone unless my system is really overloaded, like when both cpu cores are at 100% and disk I/O is high and it is starting to use swap space and I'm running SVN refreshing the sources for KDE or some such. Then, I still notice some pauses, but when svn isn't running, I rarely notice any like I used to. Before, I would get 5-6 second delays every time KMail checked for mail on one of my various mail sources, which was every few minutes to one or another, but now, is very rare that I ever notice even a half second, if that. FWIW, my system is a homebrew Athelon dual core cpu w/32 bit 11.3 Suse running 2.6.35 and KDE 4.5.2 with 3G ram, 2TB in a raid5 array w/2 additional drives in a LVM and a couple of USB 1TB drives hooked on for diddling around and backups. This is tied into a wireless LAN talking to my big machine in the living room which has a 5TB raid5 and a 1TB raid5 and a SMC 8 port router tied into the other wireless and 2 other machines, one of which is my mail and www server and the other is my test machine that I do most of my beta testing on. I used to teach Linux in college, but since my stroke, I can't do that anymore so me and my cat mostly just enjoy puttering with what I *used* to be able to do efficiently and try and remember "how it used to be" and occasionally I still find something useful to do <grin>. Hopefully, something good will come from all of this. I do believe this 'pausing' issue is a scheduling problem because SuSE 10.3 -11.1 didn't seem to have this problem on the same machines with the same memory resources, but the new kernels and new DE's and applications have changed so radically and grown so complex that I don't think that all the "engineers" at Fort Bill Gates" could do any worse at screwing it up <grin>. Thankfully, with Linux, there is the labor of love of thousands working on it rather than the greed of a few hundred butchering it. Richard -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c81 martien friedeman changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |martien.friedeman@gmail.com --- Comment #81 from martien friedeman 2010-10-16 19:13:24 UTC --- The hang occurs when 'nvidia-settings -q gpucoretemp' is executed under root. And when this command was executed right after logging in, and I guess in the middle of the GPU initialization for the session. The work around is to make sure that the monitor doesn't start too early. I've put the start of GKRELLM in an Autostart script after a 'sleep 20'. That way all the GPU initialization is done when the first nvidia-settings command is executed by the monitor. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c83 Tim Edwards changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |iceman@fastmail.com.au --- Comment #83 from Tim Edwards 2010-10-19 10:11:51 UTC --- The workaround (YAST->Sysconfig Editor->System->Limits change HARDLOCKLIMIT to 1024 and SOFTLOCKLIMIT to 256) worked for me too, on two completely different laptops, one an Acer the other a Dell, running Opensuse 11.3 32-bit with Nvidia graphic cards. Please fix the bug so this workaround is not necessary. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c85 zmi zmi changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |zmi007@gmail.com --- Comment #85 from zmi zmi 2010-11-04 21:39:55 UTC --- I confirm this on opensuse 11.3 with all kernels including 2.6.36-90-desktop from head and 1 nouveau driver 2 nvidia 260.19 driver System just freezes forever. Only reboot helps. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c86 --- Comment #86 from zmi zmi 2010-11-08 22:46:33 UTC --- additional info: Xorg seems to be the origin. It uses 100% cpu. I can log in remotely to the machine. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c88 --- Comment #88 from martien friedeman 2010-11-22 19:06:31 UTC --- No, I was wrong. It is back. The 260.19.21 driver is no help. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c90 --- Comment #90 from SA SA 2010-11-23 00:12:30 UTC --- The bug is not in the driver, changing the driver doesn't help. Nothing really helps apart from changing the kernel. Changing the kernel to >=2.6.35 simply fixes the problem full stop. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c92 David Agudo changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dagudoj@gmail.com --- Comment #92 from David Agudo 2010-11-30 19:40:20 UTC --- This also happens to me. Opensuse 11.3 x64, Nvidia 8500 GT, 2.6.34.7-0.5-default. With the NVIDIA 195.36.31 driver it freezes less often. With the most current driver the system is completely unusable. The telinit 3/rmmod nvidia/telinit 5 trick usually solves the problem until the next reboot. I am quite sure the problem comes with the 2.6.34 kernel because this started with 11.2, just a few weeks before 11.3 was released. Since then no nvidia driver has worked properly. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c94 --- Comment #94 from Frank Vanderham 2010-12-16 03:06:30 UTC ---

The only solution I found to work with the 2.6.34 kernel is the steps I wrote in comment #67

As FYI - I find that with kernel 2.6.34.7 and nVidia driver 260.19.21 the issue also goes away (temporarily) when logging out and then back in (which resets X of course). It saves me that hassle of "telinit 3, do-the-hokey-pokey". -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c Michael Schweikart changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P1 - Urgent CC| |micky@schweikarts-vom-dach. | |de Component|Kernel |Kernel Product|openSUSE 11.3 |openSUSE 11.4 Target Milestone|--- |Final OS/Version|openSUSE 11.3 |openSUSE 11.4 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625339#c97 --- Comment #97 from Mathias Homann 2011-03-27 16:41:11 UTC --- I'm having the same ghost images on screen from flash clips, on 11.4 running 2.6.37.1-1.2-pae and nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-pae-260.19.44_k2.6.37.1_1.2-23.1.i586. the "ghosts" especially manifest on black areas in openGL apps. .. Stellarium and celestia are not much fun this way. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.