https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088 User jimomura@pathcom.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088#c1 --- Comment #1 from Jim Omura 2008-06-30 09:59:34 MDT --- I took a closer look at the "Volume" application and I see now that it is "Volume Control 2.22.0" so I do not know where the settings are being lost. It could be at the "Volume Control" or at "Alsa Mixer". -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088 User jimomura@pathcom.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088#c3 --- Comment #3 from Jim Omura 2008-07-01 08:57:05 MDT --- At this point it is hard to be sure. I have had so many problems with setting retention with other Gnome applets, I think it is the first place to look. But this one appears different. I have continued to play with it and have finally got sound working acceptably, but with so many changes, I cannot be sure what finally worked. Key Events: Yesterday morning the updater loaded a "Nautilus" update. I did not really look at it. Nothing seemed to change. I re-booted many times yesterday and I do not recall the applet icon coming up differently. This morning, the applet icon was not muted and the sound was working properly right from boot. Then I received another "Nautilus" update and loaded that. When I rebooted, the applet icon was muted and I had to go back to the ALSA mixer and re-set everything again. I rebooted again and the problem persisted. I finally found the "Sound Preference" icon. All the output side was set to "Autodetect". I changed them all to the ALSA mixer. I also removed more of the "Pulse Audio" (there are a lot of parts). After re-booting, everything is now ok. But I have only re-booted 1 time since making the changes, so it is possible that there might be more trouble to come. I *think* that setting the "Sound Preferences" probably was enough. That is to say, I think I could probably re-load all the "Pulse Audio" stuff again and the "Auto Detect" might be the only real problem. The "Volume Applet" still has a problem because the "Open Volume Control" still looks for "pavucontrol" I think that might be corrected if I re-install the volume package. I do not know if I will reload the "Volume Applet" or reload Pulse Audio. At this point, I do not feel like tinkering with the sound. There are too many other problems. If you really want me to try something for your own information, well, if it is really quick, I will try it. Otherwise, as far as I am concerned, we can close this bug. But this is just a work-around -- not a real solution. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088 User jimomura@pathcom.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088#c5 --- Comment #5 from Jim Omura 2008-07-01 18:04:01 MDT --- Last Call: I have put in too much time trying to get 11.0 working reliably. It is cutting into my "real work" time. There is a chance that I will take it off this laptop and install 10.3, which I expect will give me less trouble for now. Eventually I will probably load Enterprise 11, so there is a good chance that I will not be loading 11.0 again. If I do this, it could happen within the next few hours, or maybe days. I might decide to leave 11.0 on this computer and just let the computer "sit" for a while and come back to it in a few days or weeks. In other words, I have not yet made a firm decision. The point is, that if anyone wants anything like a "conf" file or "log" file that might help in debugging for the future, now is the time to ask for it. If I decide to remove 11.0, I will check back here just before I do so. Current State: The most I can say is that before I set the "Sound Preferences" to "ALSA Mixer" it usually failed. The ratio was probably around 5:1 - 10:1 in favor of failure. After setting "Sound Preferences" the situation became roughly the opposite, with a failure ratio of 1:5 - 1:10. In other words, it was substantially better, but not perfect. Anyway, I hope that helps someone else, if not me. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088 User jimomura@pathcom.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088#c7 --- Comment #7 from Jim Omura 2008-07-03 15:14:58 MDT --- Last Comments: I replaced 11.0 with 10.3 yesterday and completed the updates today. As far as I can tell, the sound system was working reliably on the 10.3 distribution image that I installed. Yesterday, everything ran quite well, including "startup" and "shutdown" sounds. Today, after a complete set of updates, the sound settings became like 11.0. The "Volume Applet" was losing its setting between reboots. However, if I had the sound set up, the shutdown sound would play. After setting up the "Sound Preferences" from "Autodetect" to "ALSA", the applet comes up properly and even the "startup" sound seems to play reliably. So part of what has gone wrong happened back during the upgrades to 10.3, only now it appears to be even worse. I am closing this bug under 11.0 because I am no longer running 11.0. If I can leave a final suggestion, I think it would be a good idea to focus on getting the "startup" and "shutdown" sounds to play. They are not inherently important, but the problems are probably somewhere in the X boot and shutdown processes, and this makes a good debugging starting point. Then again, I expect you guys are already well into getting at these bugs in your own way. . . . Good luck! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088 User jpr@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088#c9 JP Rosevear changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|LATER | --- Comment #9 from JP Rosevear 2008-08-25 12:10:49 MDT --- Still valid I think -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088 User jimomura@pathcom.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=405088#c11 --- Comment #11 from Jim Omura 2008-09-03 13:31:38 MDT --- Sorry for not replying sooner, but I have been busy. There are basically 2 parts to this bug. One is the "startup" and "shutdown" sounds not working consistently, either because the mixer fails to retain its settings, or because the "sound" program fails (which means that you cannot play the system sounds in the "sound" application despite the mixer not being muted). The other issue is that the controls are basically incomprehensible because of the added complexity of Pulse Audio. When I dropped back to OpenSuSE 10.3 (also 64-bit), I found that the first problem was also found in that version. I created a new bug #406998, and that bug is still open, though it is set at a low priority. The second part of the bug, regarding the sound related programs, does not apply to 10.3 because it did not have Pulse Audio. Anyway, that is basically the current situation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.