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31 Jul 2008 31 Jul '08

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 Summary: Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons. Product: openSUSE 11.0 Version: Final Platform: i586 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.0 Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: Sound AssignedTo: tiwai@novell.com ReportedBy: nonfatmatt@gmail.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- Pulseaudio causes many problems for the users of may pro audio applications, chiefly by introducing latency and obfuscating important sound card functions. Also, for users with sound cards that have hardware mixing, it's completely redundant and pointless. Currently there is no easy way to disable pulse other than manually removing the packages, but this causes problems insofar as the default GNOME mixer does not recognize straight ALSA because it has been replaced with a pulseaudio control and that many applications are confused and do not default to ALSA or are plain non-switchable. What opensuse needs is a robust but simple way to choose an audio infrastructure and default audio daemon, so those of us who use it for pro audio work (which it's suited for because of the rt kernel and up to date packages) and those of us with more advanced audio hardware don't have to rip out major portions of our system to gain functionality which is already included. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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4 Aug 4 Aug

12:20

New subject: [Bug 413508] Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 User tiwai@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508#c1 Takashi Iwai changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rodrigo@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |rodrigo@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Takashi Iwai 2008-08-04 06:20:16 MDT --- Rodrigo, any thoughts? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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14:19

New subject: [Bug 413508] Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 User rodrigo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508#c2 Rodrigo Moya changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |yast2-maintainers@suse.de Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|rodrigo@novell.com | --- Comment #2 from Rodrigo Moya 2008-08-04 08:19:46 MDT --- Well, PA is probably going to be used for the whole distro in 11.1. But yes, we might need some way to select (in YAST at install time, I guess) the sound setup to be used. CCing YAST maintainers -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 413508] Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 Rodrigo Moya changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 413508] Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 Rodrigo Moya changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P3 - Medium |P2 - High -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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11 Aug 11 Aug

11:06

New subject: [Bug 413508] Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 User tiwai@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508#c3 Takashi Iwai changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |rodrigo@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Takashi Iwai 2008-08-11 05:06:09 MDT --- In addition, we should think about starting pulseaudio as the root daemon. Otherwise the multi-user switching won't work well, I suppose. There can be the following options as sound-setups: A. PA running as root in init B. PA running at each login as each user C. PA running with dmix config, started dynamically D. PA not installed On 11.0, GNOME uses the case B. KDE and others are supposed to be the case C, but actually it's not. PA use "hw" device and takes the whole access. The case D is needed for the system using JACK. So, we need to define a system-wide setting about these, maybe via sysconfig. In the case of B, PA is started at login and alsa-plugins-pulse is set for the default ALSA I/O, too. In the case of C, alsa-plugins-pulse shouldn't be used but dmix is set up for PA configuration. Rodrigo, any good way to change PA config dynamically? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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18 Aug 18 Aug

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New subject: [Bug 413508] Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 User rodrigo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508#c4 Rodrigo Moya changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|rodrigo@novell.com | --- Comment #4 from Rodrigo Moya 2008-08-18 04:06:29 MDT --- AFAIK there is no way to change PA config dynamically, you need to restart the daemon for the changes in the config file to be taken into account. As for people uninstalling PA, I've now changed the mixer applet in FACTORY to run gnome-volume-control if pavucontrol is not installed, so this should be fixed now. As for YAST stuff, this is being discussed on FATE, so keeping this open until everything is sorted out -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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1 Nov 1 Nov

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New subject: [Bug 413508] Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 User tiwai@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508#c5 Takashi Iwai changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |rodrigo@novell.com --- Comment #5 from Takashi Iwai 2008-11-01 05:37:45 MDT --- I thought YaST PA setup was implemented? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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3 Nov 3 Nov

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New subject: [Bug 413508] Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 User rodrigo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508#c6 --- Comment #6 from Rodrigo Moya 2008-11-03 05:15:51 MDT --- Yes, yast PA setup is available, although it still has some issues for configuring some apps that use $HOME for their config files. See bug #425475 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 413508] Need elegant solution to disable Pulseaudio or other audio daemons.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508 User rodrigo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413508#c7 Rodrigo Moya changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|rodrigo@novell.com | Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #7 from Rodrigo Moya 2008-11-03 05:18:16 MDT --- I guess this can be closed then -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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