Hi everybody, we had a visitor on IRC suggesting the we should be more transparent to make it easier for community to join in. Suggested improvement were to speak more loudly about what we are working on right now. One easy way how to track boosters would be identi.ca group where we would post our boosting related notices. It takes quite some time to write a blogpost and I always thinks twice whether I really have something to say before doing so, but sending identi.ca notices takes almost no time and I don't have to really think about that that carefully. Only hard part in realizing this is to think of nice and short nickname for this group, so any suggestions? My idea was 'suseboost', but I think there must be something better out there in your minds... Other thing that came across my mind while speaking about transparency is that we have our biweekly meeting where we discuss, what we are doing. But these meetings are closed teleconferences. What about changing them to public IRC meetings? I know there are still few administrative internal stuff we need to discuss from time to time, but generally we speak about our sprints and this can be public and we can let anybody join with comments and suggestions. Also taking notes would be much easier ;-) -- Michal HRUSECKY SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xFED656F6 19000 Praha 9 mhrusecky[at]suse.cz Czech Republic http://michal.hrusecky.net http://www.suse.cz
On 05/30/2010 02:23 PM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:
Hi everybody,
we had a visitor on IRC suggesting the we should be more transparent to make it easier for community to join in. Suggested improvement were to speak more loudly about what we are working on right now.
One easy way how to track boosters would be identi.ca group where we would post our boosting related notices. It takes quite some time to write a blogpost and I always thinks twice whether I really have something to say before doing so, but sending identi.ca notices takes almost no time and I don't have to really think about that that carefully. Only hard part in realizing this is to think of nice and short nickname for this group, so any suggestions? My idea was 'suseboost', but I think there must be something better out there in your minds...
As a normal browser I would not opt Identi.ca (no offense) . Because that is something which is not related to project or is not a part of the project,it is a kind of social networking.Thus, I would suggest for something which is community built and has a tag kind of "powered by openSUSE" or something like that :-) . I hope I made myself clear. Also the daily reports are fine , rest . . . ;-) .
Other thing that came across my mind while speaking about transparency is that we have our biweekly meeting where we discuss, what we are doing. But these meetings are closed teleconferences. What about changing them to public IRC meetings? I know there are still few administrative internal stuff we need to discuss from time to time, but generally we speak about our sprints and this can be public and we can let anybody join with comments and suggestions. Also taking notes would be much easier ;-)
+1 -- Regards SJ (Shayon) openSUSE Member http://en.opensuse.org/User:Wwarlock http://shayonj.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On 05/30/2010 11:33 AM, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
One easy way how to track boosters would be identi.ca group where we
I don't think that identi.ca is the solution. We should very descriptive in our status reports and blog/communicate outside (e.g. news.o.o) as much as possible. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Dear Pavol,
On 05/30/2010 11:33 AM, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
One easy way how to track boosters would be identi.ca group where we
I don't think that identi.ca is the solution. We should very descriptive in our status reports and blog/communicate outside (e.g. news.o.o) as much as possible.
Microblogging is not the worst choice for communication. If you prefer blogging, please create a blog post on start of a new project if necessary blog about updates and blog about the results. Besides that microblogging would not replace full blog posts but be an addition. If you do not like to use external platforms, this should be possible in connect.os.org, too (if it would allow group postings). Best Regards Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On 05/31/2010 09:07 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:
If you prefer blogging, please create a blog post on start of a new project if necessary blog about updates and blog about the results.
Seems you are not reading lizards right? :) In general i think we're the best documented opensuse team. You can have it Chique - http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Boosted_gallery Current - http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-boosters/ In a nutshell - http://lizards.opensuse.org/category/boosters/ Broad - http://retro.opensuse.org/milestones Grained - http://retro.opensuse.org/goals Fine - http://retro.opensuse.org/stories or in realtime - irc://irc.freenode.net/opensuse-boosters You just have to read it :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Dear Henne.
If you prefer blogging, please create a blog post on start of a new project if necessary blog about updates and blog about the results.
Seems you are not reading lizards right? :) In general i think we're the best documented opensuse team. You can have it
Chique - http://wiki.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Boosted_gallery Current - http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-boosters/ In a nutshell - http://lizards.opensuse.org/category/boosters/ Broad - http://retro.opensuse.org/milestones Grained - http://retro.opensuse.org/goals Fine - http://retro.opensuse.org/stories or in realtime - irc://irc.freenode.net/opensuse-boosters
Thanks for pointing that out. Maybe I missed some of them as I mainly use the wiki as informational resource. Perhaps it would help to place some of the above links to the wiki page. What would also be great is a 'Help boosting' page explaining how one could help out. Atm. it seems to be sworn community which does not really accept contributions from outside (Note: That's only what is visible atm. Klaas already added some good points previously and explained how to take part). Best Regards Marcus PS: I hate reply to author instead of reply to list ML list feature, because it takes discussions off list :() -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On 05/31/2010 10:56 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:
In general i think we're the best documented opensuse team. You can have it [...] Maybe I missed some of them as I mainly use the wiki as informational resource. Perhaps it would help to place some of the above links to the wiki page.
What would also be great is a 'Help boosting' page explaining how one could help out.
Our team page needed to be adapted to the right template anyway so i have added everything we talked about to it now. Everybody: please review!
PS: I hate reply to author instead of reply to list ML list feature, because it takes discussions off list :()
Then use a mailer from this century and press l ;) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Hi.
In general i think we're the best documented opensuse team. You can have it [...] Maybe I missed some of them as I mainly use the wiki as informational resource. Perhaps it would help to place some of the above links to the wiki page.
What would also be great is a 'Help boosting' page explaining how one could help out.
Our team page needed to be adapted to the right template anyway so i have added everything we talked about to it now. Everybody: please review!
The join page looks nice.
PS: I hate reply to author instead of reply to list ML list feature, because it takes discussions off list :()
Then use a mailer from this century and press l ;)
I like my gmail. Just see no good reason for mailinglists with off-list behavior, but I know you like them ;? Best Regards Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 30 May 2010 22:10:31 Pavol Rusnak wrote:
On 05/30/2010 11:33 AM, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
One easy way how to track boosters would be identi.ca group where we
I don't think that identi.ca is the solution. We should very descriptive in our status reports and blog/communicate outside (e.g. news.o.o) as much as possible.
I don't understand what's so bad about identi.ca. It's read by a lot of potential contributors. We could use it for lightweight visibilty of what we do and use a link to our group page in status reports. Of course, we should still write real blogs and news articles too. WIll -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
On 05/31/2010 09:11 AM, Will Stephenson wrote:
On Sunday 30 May 2010 22:10:31 Pavol Rusnak wrote:
On 05/30/2010 11:33 AM, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
One easy way how to track boosters would be identi.ca group where we
I don't think that identi.ca is the solution. We should very descriptive in our status reports and blog/communicate outside (e.g. news.o.o) as much as possible.
I don't understand what's so bad about identi.ca. It's read by a lot of potential contributors. We could use it for lightweight visibilty of what we do and use a link to our group page in status reports. Of course, we should still write real blogs and news articles too.
Let me clarify one thing: I didn't write that we shouldn't use identi.ca, but I think we won't solve our current problem (boosters not communicating to the outside enough) by introducing yet another tool. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
Am Montag 31 Mai 2010 09:11:48 schrieb Will Stephenson:
On Sunday 30 May 2010 22:10:31 Pavol Rusnak wrote:
On 05/30/2010 11:33 AM, Shayon Mukherjee wrote:
One easy way how to track boosters would be identi.ca group where we
I don't think that identi.ca is the solution. We should very descriptive in our status reports and blog/communicate outside (e.g. news.o.o) as much as possible.
I don't understand what's so bad about identi.ca. It's read by a lot of potential contributors. We could use it for lightweight visibilty of what we do and use a link to our group page in status reports. Nothing is bad about identi.ca. But I also do not consider it as "the solution" to the problem that we're still to little visible.
I think we have to try to fill all available pipes: Mailinglists, Twitter, Identi.ca, Blogs, talks, public showups, etc pp. The thing is: Everybody has to do it. Each of us can and should pick the ways to communicate he likes and use it, use it a lot. We do not do it enough yet. regards, Klaas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help@opensuse.org
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