I just created a circle called openSUSE artwork on g+ and added the people that have been commenting on this and other threads for the artwork. Please accept the invitation and if some of you have been left out please locate me on g+ under Andres Silva. Andy On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:32 PM, andi robert wrote:

I will create a group on g+ and see how we can add some good ideas to it. Will post the link later.

Andy

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Helen South wrote:

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Agreed, establishing some design guidelines for the release early on will really help artists not waste their time.

Perhaps we could come up with some simple polls to guage general feelings about things - eg

- should default boot/paper be green? if not, what? - styles of artwork. Pick some representative (sunflare, trails, organic, geometric) to base dev around - do we like text on wallpaper?

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I added you to one of my circles. opensuse artwork. Add me to the chat, that's always good, and when the day comes we will run a "Hangout" to have everyone join. Andy On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM, jdd wrote:

Le 22/09/2011 23:40, andi robert a écrit :

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I just created a circle called openSUSE artwork on g+ and added the people that have been commenting on this and other threads for the artwork. Please accept the invitation and if some of you have been left out please locate me on g+ under Andres Silva.

problem is I don't know how to manage google+

I have found your profile, and then?

jdd

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If that works for the rest of us that would be fine. Send out invites and we will join. Andy On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:01 PM, jdd wrote:

Le 22/09/2011 23:40, andi robert a écrit :

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I just created a circle called openSUSE artwork on g+ and added the people that have been commenting on this and other threads for the artwork. Please accept the invitation and if some of you have been left out please locate me on g+ under Andres Silva.

I really don't understand google+

can't we use an opensuse media?

I can also create a facebook page, but I don't think it's a good idea.

jdd

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That's fine. Can someone then suggest a place to meet that is also able to transfer voice and images possibly? Like a webinar interface. I would suggest adobe connectnow but the free version only allows 3 people. Andy On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

Hi all,

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I just created a circle called openSUSE artwork on g+ and added the people that have been commenting on this and other threads for the artwork. Please accept the invitation and if some of you have been left out please locate me on g+ under Andres Silva.

I am not on G+ an probably never will be.

Greets Marcus

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Andy

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:32 PM, andi robert  wrote:

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I will create a group on g+ and see how we can add some good ideas to it. Will post the link later.

Andy

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Helen South  wrote:

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Agreed, establishing some design guidelines for the release early on will really help artists not waste their time.

Perhaps we could come up with some simple polls to guage general feelings about things - eg

- should default boot/paper be green? if not, what? - styles of artwork. Pick some representative (sunflare, trails, organic, geometric) to base dev around - do we like text on wallpaper?

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Hopefully you can see the big picture Marcus. Obviously the email method is a good one and yes, we can share content through it. But can it be a meeting? I do not think so. If you feel like supporting this idea is not good for you then it would be fine to withdraw, however, you would be missing on good potential and good decisions. I am hoping that your aim is not to make this meeting a failure but a success. That is why it would be important to find a good live-sharing service that can host a meeting. Andy On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

Am 23.09.2011 09:03, schrieb andi robert:

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That's fine. Can someone then suggest a place to meet that is also able to transfer voice and images possibly? Like a webinar interface.

I would suggest adobe connectnow but the free version only allows 3 people.

Imho ML is sufficient. If you need to share content, you could e.g. use minus.

Greets Marcus

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Andy

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Marcus Moeller  wrote:

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Hi all,

...

I just created a circle called openSUSE artwork on g+ and added the people that have been commenting on this and other threads for the artwork. Please accept the invitation and if some of you have been left out please locate me on g+ under Andres Silva.

I am not on G+ an probably never will be.

Greets Marcus

...

Andy

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:32 PM, andi robert  wrote:

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I will create a group on g+ and see how we can add some good ideas to it. Will post the link later.

Andy

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Helen South  wrote:

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Agreed, establishing some design guidelines for the release early on will really help artists not waste their time.

Perhaps we could come up with some simple polls to guage general feelings about things - eg

- should default boot/paper be green? if not, what? - styles of artwork. Pick some representative (sunflare, trails, organic, geometric) to base dev around - do we like text on wallpaper?

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That is understandable, however it has been the same attitude that has governed the artwork people for a while and it is really taking us nowhere in particular. We all have families and things to take care of, however if you cannot attend a meeting that you did not plan for is easier than to attend one that you did plan for. That is why it would be convenient to have a meeting. However, since I have not been appointed by anyone to do this, I will not do it. We will keep the status quo until someone else realizes that the artwork team needs to work together. I hereby then call this meeting off until someone (with rights) calls for it again. Matter ended. Andy On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Helen South wrote:

Andy, solutions need to be found that suit everyone. People should not be making executive decisions unless they have been appointed by the team to do so.

I agree that Google+ is quite confusing, and it should not be a requirement to use any single social media system, and especially not a proprietary one. Adobe anything is out of the question!

IRC has been traditionally used for openSUSE meetings since time began, and I for one am happy to stick with mailing list and IRC if that suits all members. This also avoids the possibility of 'off the record' discussion and related problems, as all members are aware of the public nature of mailing list discussion.

Also note that finding a time for a synced meeting, when everyone is in a different timezone is not easy.

Personally, I will only be able to maintain involvement if I can be completely flexible about timing so that this in no way infringes on my family obligations, which are my first priority.  While real-time conversations are desirable, if attendance at these is a requirement I am unlikely to continue participating.

regards

Helen

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:24 PM, andi robert wrote:

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Hopefully you can see the big picture Marcus. Obviously the email method is a good one and yes, we can share content through it. But can it be a meeting? I do not think so. If you feel like supporting this idea is not good for you then it would be fine to withdraw, however, you would be missing on good potential and good decisions. I am hoping that your aim is not to make this meeting a failure but a success. That is why it would be important to find a good live-sharing service that can host a meeting.

Andy

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote:

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Am 23.09.2011 09:03, schrieb andi robert:

...

That's fine. Can someone then suggest a place to meet that is also able to transfer voice and images possibly? Like a webinar interface.

I would suggest adobe connectnow but the free version only allows 3 people.

Imho ML is sufficient. If you need to share content, you could e.g. use minus.

Greets Marcus

...

Andy

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Marcus Moeller  wrote:

...

Hi all,

...

I just created a circle called openSUSE artwork on g+ and added the people that have been commenting on this and other threads for the artwork. Please accept the invitation and if some of you have been left out please locate me on g+ under Andres Silva.

I am not on G+ an probably never will be.

Greets Marcus

...

Andy

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:32 PM, andi robert  wrote: > > I will create a group on g+ and see how we can add some good ideas to > it. Will post the link later. > > Andy > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Helen South >  wrote: >> >> Agreed, establishing some design guidelines for the release early on >> will really help artists not waste their time. >> >> Perhaps we could come up with some simple polls to guage general >> feelings about things - eg >> >> - should default boot/paper be green? if not, what? >> - styles of artwork. Pick some representative (sunflare, trails, >> organic, geometric) to base dev around >> - do we like text on wallpaper? >> >> >> >> IRC: helen_au >> helen.south@opensuse.org >> helensouth.com >> >

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