November 2010 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] Sound in KDE
by Donn Washburn 18 Nov '10

18 Nov '10

Who has done what to the sound in KDE. This is a new effect. The sound work flawless on on TVtime (Line input), YouTube but fails everywhere else KDE4 Alerts and notices , Amarok (PCM inputs). It could be a upgrade to kmix 4.5.3-#. Anyone else seeing this sound problem. openSuSE 11.4 and kernel 2.6.36-18 ALC650F reported by KDE lsmod reports: snd_page_alloc 7785 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Is it possible to install systemd on openSUSE 11.3?
by Kay Sievers 17 Nov '10

17 Nov '10

On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 11:29 -0500, Roman Bysh wrote: > I'm trying to install systemd on 11.3. Has anyone been successful > installing systemd on openSUSE 11.3? It requires recent: kernel (/sys/fs/cgroup/) udev (service files, interfaces) dbus (interfaces) mkinitrd (bugfixes) ... It might need fixes/changes from: aaa_base screen ConsoleKit ... It's not tested there at all, it might work to update all these packages in 11.3, but things might go wrong. It's probably easier to have a own partition for Factory and just follow it there, instead of messing around with new base system packages in older releases. Kay -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Temporary freeze system in netbook toshiba nb205
by Agustin Chavarria 17 Nov '10

17 Nov '10

Hi! Recently i'm using opensuse 11.4 M2, and i have a serious problem with my netbook When the netbook doesn't have any activity on the keboard or in the mouse, the system stay freezed, and i need to move the mouse, or any key in the keyboard. My laptop have an intel atom, and i have intel 945M like video card. -- Decks Agustin Fco. Chavarria Miembro internacional de opensuse Embajador de opensuse en nicaragua Dj Carbono14-Miembro de TranceDjsNicaragua "No abro documentos de MS Office, solo ODF tel: 84099002 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] apparmor
by Peter Czanik 17 Nov '10

17 Nov '10

Hello, I sent a sr for apparmor-profiles almost two weeks ago. 10 days later it was declined, as apparmor-profiles is becoming part of the base apparmor package ( https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/52227 ). I ported my patch from apparmor-profiles to the apparmor package and created another sr ( https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/53065 ). Could this be accepted before the Milestone 4 deadlines? As without the AppArmor profile fix I can't submit my syslog-ng 3.2 package... Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status: Distribution
by Stephan Kulow 17 Nov '10

17 Nov '10

Hi, Please note that I triggered the first mass rebuild over the weekend, so the next factory update will be HUGE again. It would be good to know if this fixes something magically - it would be hint that some more packages need to be rebuild automatically. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] How can I enable the systemd-Gtk gui ?
by Roman Bysh 16 Nov '10

16 Nov '10

Dear Listmates, I have also installed systemd and systemd-Gtk which should allow the me as user to see systemd in graphical format. Has any one been successful in viewing the gui portion? Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Providing alternative packages for bzip2 and gzip
by Cristian Rodríguez 16 Nov '10

16 Nov '10

Hi: I have been playing around with newer, multithreaded implementations of bzip2 and gzip and is my impression that we need to provide "update-alternatives" to them, so users are able to select their favorite tool. I came to the conclusion that I have no reason to use the traditional "bzip" when compared to "pbzip2" or gzip when compared to "pigz". attached is a compression and decompression time graph of all this tools to give you an idea ;) Cheers.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Factory - no updates since 02 November
by Sid Boyce 15 Nov '10

15 Nov '10

On 14/11/10 16:51, Donn Washburn wrote: > Using Firefox - No it is not frozen. It came right back up. > Maybe you hit a upload time. Try again > > On 11/14/2010 09:12 AM, Sid Boyce wrote: >> Is factory frozen? >> http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/ has nothing >> later than that date. >> Regards >> Sid. > I had been tracking it almost daily for a couple of weeks. Looks OK now. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] systemd: How to enable services?
by Andreas Jaeger 15 Nov '10

15 Nov '10

How can we in the rpm spec files enable or disable systemd services - and do this based on information about the current configuration, e.g. enable ssh only if it's enabled for SysVinit to do. AFAIK Fedora uses triggerun and chkconfig like the following: %triggerun -- avahi < 0.6.26-1 if /sbin/chkconfig avahi-daemon ; then /bin/systemctl enable avahi-daemon.service >/dev/null 2>&1 || : fi For details: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=avahi.git;a=blob;f=avahi.spec;h=2e9… How do we want to do this in openSUSE? This should be added to the following page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Systemd_status Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj(a){novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Factory is unusable back again?
by Jiri Slaby 15 Nov '10

15 Nov '10

Hi, why is factory rebuilding all the stuff again and again? Now it is building binutils (without a source change) and it means I will have to download 2G tomorrow or the day after, like I had to before transitive closure was disabled as a rebuild strategy. Apart from that, BS is pretty unusable (read: slow) due to that even though pkgs with changed sources are preferred by the scheduler. It is consistently building packages for few days already and it is not about to change (recall, it is building binutils now). Why is not factory 'rebuild="local"' any longer? Is this temporary or were there any problems which need be fixed? Is it a build of next MS (I doubt so as it is planned for Nov 25)? thanks, -- js suse labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Factory - no updates since 02 November
by Sid Boyce 14 Nov '10

14 Nov '10

Is factory frozen? http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/ has nothing later than that date. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Blender and 11.4 M3
by Donn Washburn 14 Nov '10

14 Nov '10

rpm -q blender -> Blender-2.55.32862-87.6.i586 as of yesterday ~> blender Illegal instruction Same error with both 2.49b and 2.55. Anyone know why or is anyone seeing this problem. It dies without a bootsplash or anything coming up. This is a AMD Athlon-xp system with lots of NVidia hardware. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] howto escape 800x600 with M3's mga driver?
by Felix Miata 12 Nov '10

12 Nov '10

Back in http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-xorg/2010-08/msg00007.html using similar subject line I was able to escape 800x600 into 1600x1200 & 2048x1536. Current 11.3 xorg.conf is http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xorg.conf.08-1600x1200x120x24bpp-mga113-… & Xorg.0.log is http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xorg.0.log-113-mga-kt880-1600x1200x120 Now on M3 using same machine and exact same xorg.conf I have the original problem back producing Xorg.0.log http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Xorg/xorg.0.log-kt880-114M3-800x600 Down at the last 1/3 of the log I see M3 isn't picking up more than minimal default modes, but I don't see why unless (EE) MGA(0): [dri] MGADRIScreenInit failed (libdri.a too old) has something to do with it. Can anyone else tell? Is there a new bug in server 1.9.2 that needs filing, or one someone knows about that I didn't find? Does whatever provides libdri.a need a rebuild? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] drop /usr/sbin/Check?
by Ludwig Nussel 12 Nov '10

12 Nov '10

Hi, AFAICT /usr/sbin/Check only does two things nowadays - compress man pages, info files and fonts - run SuSEconfig.permissions The former is done by brp-compress anyways, except for fonts. The latter is obsolete and I'd like to call the replacement in a separate brp script. So only compressing fonts is left AFAICT. I guess that part could either easily be patched into brp-compress too or just be omitted. So far I only found wqy-bitmapfont where the font compression triggers. Therefore /usr/sbin/Check should be safe to drop, right? cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] chilly foor 11.3 /11sp1?
by Hans Witvliet 12 Nov '10

12 Nov '10

Hi all, During my daily rsync i noticed (i might have been for quite a while, but today i noticed it) a new build version on the OBS of chilly hotspot software. Unfortunately, it is only build (in repo/network:/aaa/ ) for SLE_10 and factory. As i will need it in a couple of weeks, i was wondering if there miht be any chance for the other suse versions (11.3, sles11sp1) Though it might be a piece of cake to get it installed/configured, if there might be an chance of a ready to run/configure version i would rather prefer it. Kind regards, Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] NFS and hibernation
by Carlos E. R. 12 Nov '10

12 Nov '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I post this here because I want to add a feature that should not be too dificult. I can write the script, but I need some help with two doubts. I think it is known that the kernel oopses when trying to hibernate a machine and there is an NFS mount (Bug 568132). I wondered if I could create an script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ that detects there is an NFS mount active, and aborts hibernation warning the user. But my 1st problem is how to detect there is an NFS mount? I tried this: mount | grep "type nfs" but it fails because it hits on: nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw) Maybe I'm foggy now and can't make grep get what I want - too little sleep tonight :-) Perhaps showmount, but I don't know how to make it show only imported filesystems. And after that, I need something in the /etc/pm/sleep.d/00_checknfs script that aborts the process. Some result code, perhaps? Perhaps someone of the devs here knows about that one? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAkzb1iMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Ut8QCeJyyusooPVqimo5hrbr0ITlZQ tfUAmJDLXt5nXGyyOmLKpMR03nbX/qg= =cW0j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] systemd (feature #310327)
by Stephan Kulow 11 Nov '10

11 Nov '10

Hi, There have been various talks about systemd at the openSUSE conference and we would like to go forward. So next step would be a wider testing: so please install systemd and boot with init=/bin/systemd and report issues (here). AJ documented some more details on: http://lizards.opensuse.org/2010/10/08/systemd-and-osc2010/ If you want coloured pictures, compare http://ktown.kde.org/~coolo/bootchart-sysvinit.png and http://ktown.kde.org/~coolo/bootchart-systemd.png Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status: Milestone3
by Stephan Kulow 11 Nov '10

11 Nov '10

Hi, Build845 is considered a good Milestone3 and so I'm uploading it to the mirrors right now. The version updates of that release can be checked here: http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=openSUSE%3AFactory_versions&action=h… I hope someone is preparing an announcement. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-wiki] Dead link in factory iso readme
by pistazienfresser (see profile) 10 Nov '10

10 Nov '10

Am 08/11/10 11:03, schrieb Thomas Schmidt: > On 02.11.2010 23:12, pistazienfresser (see profile) wrote: >> Hello! >> >> Maybe someone could and would update the link to the wiki in the >> README.FIRST (and maybe the article in the actual wiki, too)? >> >> Regards >> pistazienfresser >> >> http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/README.FIRST >> http://old-en.opensuse.org/Factory/Status >> >> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Factory >> > > Coolo, do you know where to change this file? [...] Thanks for the changing. But the URL is only corrected in the second citation not in the first citation (besides I do not know why it should be citated with full URL two times in that small file at all). README.FIRST 10-Nov-2010 19:05 http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/README.FIRST : > These ISO files are published automatically once a new snapshot finished. > They haven't seen any kind of testing before publishing, so download on your > own risk and cost. > > Most of the time they work, but there are times when they are broken - we try > to > update http://en.opensuse.org/Factory/Status as soon as we know about that. > > So visit (and edit if you reported a bug severe enough) > http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Factory And just in case: maybe a information where and how to report a broken iso-image would be fine, too - e.g on the discussion page to the same wiki-page [if someone would put that on his/her watchlist and activate the email-report] or the factory-mailing-list [with a description how to be able to mail to that list]. Regards pistazienfresser (Martin) -- - openSUSE 11.2 with GNOME 2.28.2 (or KDE 4.3.5) and Kernel Linux 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop (or ~pae, ~default, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS 'lucid' 2.6.33-24-genetic, MS Win XP) - Samsung X20 Pentium M 740 (1730 MHz) Intel 915GM 1400x1050 - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] --download-in default/--download-as-needed invalid
by Felix Miata 10 Nov '10

10 Nov '10

Has this been changed to download-in-advance lately? I doubt any of my Factory systems have enough freespace for 1084 packages to download before installing any of them. Can it be configured somewhere so that I don't have to remember --download-in-heaps or --download-as-needed on cmdline every time? I don't see any examples in zypper.conf to suggest it can. zypper1.5.1-2.1 is complaining "Unknown option '--download-as-needed' and "Unknown option '--download-in-heaps', so I have to manually select small groups of packages to in in order to keep enough freespace on / to function. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] How can debug rpms be linked to their parent rpms
by Dave Plater 10 Nov '10

10 Nov '10

Hi, I've just come across a potential problem, I've put up with the fact that when I update a package I have to explicitly tell zypper or yast to update the debug package. Now I'm in the process of renaming rosegarden4 to it's correct name rosegarden and after a zypper dup -r homeproject I've noticed that the old rosegarden4 debug rpms had remained installed along with the new rosegarden ones. I removed them but it prompted me to ask why debug rpms are no longer linked to their parent package. If I remove a package the debug rpms remain behind and debug packages tend to use a lot of disk space. In the old days if one selected a debuginfo package it's matching debugsource was pulled in and if one removed the parent package the debug rpms were also removed. What is the solution to this? A bug report? An enhancement request? Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] submitrequest for package R-base into Factory
by Detlef Steuer 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

Hi! After some cleaning of up the spec file it seems a good moment to put R-base into Factory. R is a programming language for statistical analysis and graphics. Its homepage is http://www.r-project.org . R is used widely throughout the statistical community both in academia and industry, more and more becoming a de-facto standard for implementing new statistical methods. In its very early days R even was included in SuSE releases, but may be more than 10 years since :-) Its current stable release is R-2.12.0. Since 1.5.1 I am the maintainer for SuSE/Open_SUSE rpm packages of R-base. These packages were created on my own machines until the buildservice emerged. (Thanks again to all involved in setting up and maintaining this incredible resource!) R can be found under science:R-base which is a link to devel:languages:R:base in the build service hierachy. R uses GPL. It is included in Fedora and Debian (and derivatives). If you need any other information I'll be happy to provide it. Detlef -- Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservieren: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/demail -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Help there's a problem with https://build.opensuse.org/package/show? action menu.
by Sascha Peilicke 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

> ... > [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- > [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email-address> > [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- > [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- Examples: > [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo(a)bar.com > [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- ***** End of Help ***** > [11:16] <davepl> /msg NickServ REGISTER davepl1954 davejplater(a)gmail.com > [11:16] [404] davepl #opensuse-buildservice Cannot send to channel > > My nick is davepl and has been for a long time. > This is taking up my precious time. This may be related to FreeNode's recent auth changes IMO. They moved away from NickServ to SASL auth. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Sascha Peilicke http://saschpe.wordpress.com

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[opensuse-factory] Getting Wrong Letter when Typing Certain Keyboard Button on (CLI) Terminal
by Andi Sugandi 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

Hi List mates, I'm running openSUSE 11.4 M2 (?) (I did 'zypper dup' from 11.3, KDE4-LiveCD-x86_64). Overall there is no big problem in GUI, but CLI. I can not login to (CLI) terminal because when I type (from keyboard button): root , the letters appear (in LCD monitor): r66t . I investigate it, and find they are other letters that go wrong when typing certain keyboard buttons: "0" change to "/" "u" change to "4" "i" change to "5" "o" change to "6" "p" change to "*" "j" change to "1" "k" change to "2" "l" change to "3" ";" change to "-" "/" change to "+" and i can see in keyboard button that the "wrong letter' is an optional character when pressing it together with Fn-key. So for example, when i type: Fn+o it "should" get 6, but it is also failed both on GUI and CLI. In opeSUSE 11.3, I did not investigate it deeper yet, but at least i can login to (CLI) terminal without problem. Should i file a bug? My computer is ASUS EEEPC 1201T. $ cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 3 of 6 (x86_64) VERSION = 11.4 CODENAME = Celadon Thanks in advance. Best regards, -- Andi Sugandi. Bandung, Indonesia. openSUSE-id Team, openSUSE Community Member. http://en.opensuse.org/User:Andisugandi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OpenOfiice
by Donn Washburn 09 Nov '10

09 Nov '10

Why does OpenOffice crash after the bootsplash? It even fails if you goto /usr/lib/ooo3/programs and run the files in that directory directly. like ./scalc or others. I will admit openSuSE's version looks nicer than the Sun version. I sure hope that the effort for LibreOffice works. " http://www.h-online.com/open/features/LibreOffice-A-fresh-page-for-OpenOffi… " -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] OpenOffice failure
by Donn Washburn 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Open Office fail to get past it's openSuSE bootscreen. From a konsole - soffice error donn@m1lhs:~> soffice terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException' KCrash: Application 'soffice.bin' crashing... KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit sock_file=/home/donn/.kde4/socket-m1lhs/kdeinit4__0 This is the same error as seen on other programs. cd to /usr/lib/ooo3/program and run ./soffice.bin by passes the bootsplash and still gets the error. scalc geets a bootsplash and fails the same way/ -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] empathy bug
by Roelof Wobben 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Hello, I see that the empathy bug is still open and has a SR since the 28th. Can someone look what happens to the SR. Roelof -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] libjpeg-turbo
by Andrew Jorgensen 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 15:30 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > El 04/11/10 15:10, Andrew Jorgensen escribió: > > Moving to libjpeg-turbo would fix bnc#620175 Opensuse 11.3 Chrome Stable > > Crashes When Trying to Attach a File. > > > > Basically the problem is that Google's build of Chrome is against > > libjpeg6 (because Ubuntu and Fedora use 6 - Fedora 14 uses > > libjpeg-turbo, I haven't checked Ubuntu yet). This causes chrome to > > crash > > We have our chrome builds, do not use Google's build, unfortunately > vendors, as odd it may sound, having millions of dollars and huge > staffing have zero clue about how to deliver working/correct rpms. Many people, myself included, prefer to use Google's own upstream build. Similarly for a number of other packages. One reason is that our builds of chromium are not updated on the same schedule as upstream. Also our builds enable a number of unstable features that upstream does not. The fact that openSUSE is in third place means that in order to follow third-party apps that don't want to have a dedicated openSUSE channel means that we should follow what first (Ubuntu) and second (Fedora) are doing for their major underlying libraries. That's not a criticism of openSUSE, it's just the reality of our position in the community. The more we deviate the more third-party apps (and proprietary apps) will break on our distro, which unfortunately will make us less relevant, not more. There are other good reasons to use libjpeg-turbo, namely the 2-4X speed (also battery) improvement. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Help there's a problem with https://build.opensuse.org/package/show? action menu.
by Dave Plater 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

I am getting very frustrated with the build service : I can work around checkin to newly relinked packages that wants to mangle my spec file and delete the contents of local copies but now I'm pulling my hair out. I cannot access the "Alter Package Information" item in the "Actions" menu link in the overview page, "only report bug", in packages where I'm maintainer but not a project maintainer. I can alter the information via "osc meta pkg graphics openCOLLADA -e" and it appears after about 15 min to 1 hour but I cant do anything in the web ui except report a bug to myself. I tried a message to the build service list. This morning (UTC +2) I tried the #opensuse-buildservice irc and I got this : <davepl> Hi, can somebody help with a bug in the webui part of the build service. I can only access report bug on the action menu, when logged in via https://build.opensuse.org/ and https://build.opensuse.org/stage/. This happens in all packages where I'm package maintainer but not a project maintainer. ie. The Action menu link on the overview page in "multimedia:libs jack" gives me : report bug, delete package, edit package [11:12] <davepl> information, submit package, branch package and a second report bug at the bottom.The Action menu link on the overview page in "graphics blender" gives me : report bug only. I'm a project maintainer in multimedia:libs but only a package maintainer of graphics blender. I can use the command line osc meta pkg graphics openCOLLADA -e (the package I actually want to change) and the change goes through and further command line [11:12] <davepl> osc meta pkg shows the change but I can't see it in the web ui (yet). If I try "osc meta pkg graphics dcraw -e" I get "no permission to change package" which is expected. So we aren't back to normal. [11:12] [404] davepl #opensuse-buildservice Cannot send to channel [11:12] [404] davepl #opensuse-buildservice Cannot send to channel [11:12] [404] davepl #opensuse-buildservice Cannot send to channel [11:14] <-> nickserv> help register [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- ***** NickServ Help ***** [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- Help for REGISTER: [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- This will register your current nickname with NickServ. [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- This will allow you to assert some form of identity on [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- the network and to be added to access lists. Furthermore, [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- NickServ will warn users using your nick without [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- identifying and allow you to kill ghosts. [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- The password is a case-sensitive password that you make [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- up. Please write down or memorize your password! You [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- will need it later to change settings. [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- You have to confirm the email address. To do this, [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- follow the instructions in the message sent to the email [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- address. [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email-address> [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- Examples: [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo(a)bar.com [11:14] [Notice] -NickServ- ***** End of Help ***** [11:16] <davepl> /msg NickServ REGISTER davepl1954 davejplater(a)gmail.com [11:16] [404] davepl #opensuse-buildservice Cannot send to channel My nick is davepl and has been for a long time. This is taking up my precious time. Please help, a bug report about build service takes a life time. I think it was just last weekend I couldn't log in for a day until it was fixed which put me back with packages I was working on. Dave P user plater -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] -lwrap
by Donn Washburn 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

Once upon a time a person on this list someone told me how to solve a question with compiling when an error "-lwrap" shows up. I had this information stored away until a drive died. If that person is around HELP again. As information goes I remember it was a down loadable file dealing with NET. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email:" n5xwb(a)comcast.net " Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : " n5xwb(a)arrl.net " VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] libjpeg-turbo
by Andrew Jorgensen 07 Nov '10

07 Nov '10

It seems we should make sure other libraries mentioned in LSB are compiled against LSB versions of their dependencies wherever possible. So in this case we ought to modify QT and GTK+ to compile against libjpeg6 / -turbo. It may be a good idea to audit all LSB-related packages for dependencies on other versions. Even if that's not actually required by LSB it is something we ought to be doing to prevent conflicts. "Cristian Rodríguez<crrodriguez(a)opensuse.org>" <crrodriguez(a)opensuse.org> wrote: El 07/11/10 12:09, Cristian Morales Vega escribió: >>> That "libjpeg62 obsoletes and provides libjpeg8" is probably wrong? >>> Shouldn't it obsolete/provide libjpeg6? libjpeg-turbo has a different SONAME, so it SHOULD NOT not conflict, nor obsolete libjpeg8 in anyway. jpeg8 must remain installed on the user system on upgrade in case it is needed by other packages. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] libjpeg-turbo
by Andrew Jorgensen 07 Nov '10

07 Nov '10

On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 18:06 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > El 04/11/10 17:53, Andrew Jorgensen escribió: > > On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 21:16 +0100, Dirk Müller wrote: > >> On Thursday 04 November 2010, Pavol Rusnak wrote: > >> > >>> It seems only Arch and openSUSE have 8.0, all of the rest uses v6 or > >>> libjpeg-turbo. > >> > >> Thats correct, mainly due to LSB requirements, which we chose to ignore. > > > > I'm going to recommend that we stop ignoring LSB requirements. > > Oh really ? the LSB is non-sense. what good reasons ? At the risk of repeating myself: This pixbuf loader bug is just one example. The LSB exists to make it possible to run proprietary products on any LSB-compliant linux distro. And despite the tunnel-vision open source enthusiasts sometimes have there are a many important and useful proprietary products out there. When we fail to run some product that someone needs they go to Fedora or Ubuntu because the OS is irrelevant to the vast majority of customers. The only thing that matters is what the customer wants to /do/ with the OS. I realize that in some cases LSB fails to accomplish this goal but in this case it would have succeeded as it does in many cases. If you feel that LSB is failing to accomplish this in some way please step up and help give them constructive suggestions as to how it could be accomplished better. In the real world there will always be proprietary products and /we/ are better off if those products can run smoothly on our favorite distro. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] New package for factory - openCOLLADA
by Dave Plater 06 Nov '10

06 Nov '10

Hi, with the new blender-2.55.32862 waiting be submitted to factory, I'm submitting (sr#52321) the openCOLLADA library package to factory as it's needed for blenders new collada import export feature and resides in the same graphics devel project as blender. Collada 3D import and export libraries COLLADA is a royalty-free XML schema that enables digital asset exchange within the interactive 3D industry. OpenCOLLADA is a Google summer of code opensource project providing libraries for 3D file interchange between applications like blender. COLLADABaseUtils : Utils used by many of the other projects COLLADAFramework : Datamodel used to load COLLADA files COLLADAStreamWriter : sources (Library to write COLLADA files) COLLADASaxFrameworkLoader : Library that loads COLLADA files in a sax like manner into the framework data model COLLADAValidator : XML validator for COLLADA files, based on the COLLADASaxFrameworkLoader GeneratedSaxParser : Library used to load xml files in the way used by COLLADASaxFrameworkLoader Authors ------- sebastian(a)opencollada.org gtempaccount.com robert(a)opencollada.org gtempaccount.com License = MIT See : https://collada.org/mediawiki/index.php/COLLADA_-_Digital_Asset_and_FX_Exch… and http://www.opencollada.org/ Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] libjpeg-turbo
by Andrew Jorgensen 05 Nov '10

05 Nov '10

On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 21:16 +0100, Dirk Müller wrote: > On Thursday 04 November 2010, Pavol Rusnak wrote: > > > It seems only Arch and openSUSE have 8.0, all of the rest uses v6 or > > libjpeg-turbo. > > Thats correct, mainly due to LSB requirements, which we chose to ignore. I'm going to recommend that we stop ignoring LSB requirements. There are some very good reasons to comply with LSB and we fail when we don't. This pixbuf loader bug is just one example. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] libjpeg-turbo
by Andrew Jorgensen 05 Nov '10

05 Nov '10

Moving to libjpeg-turbo would fix bnc#620175 Opensuse 11.3 Chrome Stable Crashes When Trying to Attach a File. Basically the problem is that Google's build of Chrome is against libjpeg6 (because Ubuntu and Fedora use 6 - Fedora 14 uses libjpeg-turbo, I haven't checked Ubuntu yet). This causes chrome to crash when a gtk filechooser dialog sees a jpeg file (tries to load the pixbuf loader which crashes because the loader is linked to libjpeg8). This mixed jpeg problem will also cause problems for any app or browser plugin compiled for other distros that happens to use gtk for file choosers. For example it causes a crash with Novell's Moonlight plugin on chrome for a similar reason (we use pixbuf loaders for all images, we're looking at switching). The fun part is that our own plugin only crashes in this way on our own distro. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] libjpeg-turbo
by Cristian Morales Vega 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Fedora 14 has been released with libjpeg-turbo (http://libjpeg-turbo.virtualgl.org/). I see we have multiple packages in home repos (home:Lazy_Kent, home:felfert, home:iboss32, home:mkromer and home:prusnak)... so someone can comment about this? Fedora sells this as a libjpeg API/ABI compatible changes that is just faster. From a quick look it seems to be API/ABI compatible with the old 6.2 version that was available for years, but 11.3 already provides the binary incompatible 8.0. What other distros do? Also, not sure if featurewise they are 100% equivalent (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=639672). Finally, this probably would be mostly a x86-64 improvement? Since we target i586 for x86-32, that doesn't provides MMX/SSE support, the speed improvement seems to be limited to a "25%" there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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Version symbols in libraries that upstream doesn't (Was: [opensuse-factory] libjpeg-turbo)
by Cristian Morales Vega 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

2010/11/4 Andrew Jorgensen <ajorgensen(a)novell.com>: > Moving to libjpeg-turbo would fix bnc#620175 Opensuse 11.3 Chrome Stable > Crashes When Trying to Attach a File. > > Basically the problem is that Google's build of Chrome is against > libjpeg6 (because Ubuntu and Fedora use 6 - Fedora 14 uses > libjpeg-turbo, I haven't checked Ubuntu yet). This causes chrome to > crash when a gtk filechooser dialog sees a jpeg file (tries to load the > pixbuf loader which crashes because the loader is linked to libjpeg8). > > This mixed jpeg problem will also cause problems for any app or browser > plugin compiled for other distros that happens to use gtk for file > choosers. For example it causes a crash with Novell's Moonlight plugin > on chrome for a similar reason (we use pixbuf loaders for all images, > we're looking at switching). The fun part is that our own plugin only > crashes in this way on our own distro. Never looked too deep into this. But Debian seems to version symbols in a way that would solve this kind of problems (http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/ImprovedDpkgShlibdeps). Since for any precompiled binary this can happen with a lot of libraries this could be something good to copy. As a side effect it would also remove the need for macros as "%kde4_runtime_requires" (in an ideal case). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] libdbi Contrib -> Factory
by Peter Czanik 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Hello, I wonder, if libdbi and libdbi-drivers could be moved from Contrib to Factory. Reason: syslog-ng's database support is based libdbi. If libdbi(-drivers) is moved to Factory, then database could be enabled as part of the next release. Bye, -- Peter Czanik (CzP) <czanik(a)balabit.hu> BalaBit IT Security / syslog-ng upstream http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] SLES 11 Update Server broken
by Günther J. Niederwimmer 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Hello, is this known? I will only tell all the people the update server for SLE is broken last night. The bad thing is to reregister the system after a broken connect, zypper disabled the repository :(. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status: Milestone3
by Stephan Kulow 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Hi, The most annoying M2 bug is still not fixed (Xorg crashes) and I don't consider releasing Milestone3 in this state useful ;( So I will cancel Milestone3 and move it to hopefully next week. If we can't get to the core of it, we may need to disable compositing use in KDE. Greetings, Stephan -- Sent from openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Systemd and sysconfig
by Cristian Rodríguez 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Hi: While I personally object the whole idea of "sysconfig" files, they are a reality and are widely used, what is the proper way to reference them from systemd units ? ExecStartPre is the only thing I need right ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Dead link in factory iso readme
by pistazienfresser (see profile) 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Hello! Maybe someone could and would update the link to the wiki in the README.FIRST (and maybe the article in the actual wiki, too)? Regards pistazienfresser http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/README.FIRST http://old-en.opensuse.org/Factory/Status http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Factory -- - openSUSE 11.2 with GNOME 2.28.2 (or KDE 4.3.5) and Kernel Linux 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop (or ~pae, ~default, Ubuntu 10.4 LTS 'lucid' 2.6.33-24-genetic, MS Win XP) - Samsung X20 Pentium M 740 (1730 MHz) Intel 915GM 1400x1050 - openSUSE profile: https://users.opensuse.org/show/pistazienfresser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Suggesting network:samba:misc as devel-project for SMBTA
by Holger Hetterich 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

Hi, I would like to suggest network:samba:misc as the devel-project for SMB Traffic Analyzer ( http://holger123.wordpress.com/smb-traffic-analyzer/ ). Basically it produces two packages "smbtad" and "smbtatools". I've done a submitrequest for factory for both of them today. Holger -- Holger Hetterich, hhetter(a)novell.com, SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] All factory lists, what to do with them?
by Rajko M. 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory-base List of the developers of the openSUSE:Factory devel project Base:System Last post: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory-base/2009-08/date.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory-graphics List of the developers of the openSUSE:Factory devel project graphics The only post: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory-graphics/2009-10/date.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory-mozilla List of the developers of the openSUSE:Factory devel project mozilla Last post: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory-mozilla/2010-10/date.html It seems that creating developers lists wasn't that big success. Only the last one has few entries in 2010, and majority of conversation was in: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory-mozilla/2010-09/msg00000.html In my humble, we should get rid of all in order not to confuse unsuspecting potential developers, that would like to contribute to development version, but after review of mail lists find there is no activity and just go away. I know that mail lists are not the only way to check project activity, but imagine someone that checks 4-5 projects, with intention to join the one. How much time and thoughts one will give to project with dead development mail lists. Nowadays, no one will hunt down development communication channels, when some other places offer clear pointer to development communication. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Factory mail list description.
by Rajko M. 02 Nov '10

02 Nov '10

I would like to see somewhat different (better) list description. Now it is: "Discussion about all Alpha, Beta, RC and Factory versions of openSUSE." It would be better to have: "Discussions about development of next openSUSE version." -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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