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Re: [yast-devel] Services UI, a different approach


On Mar 13 16:22 Lukas Ocilka wrote (excerpt):
On 9.3.2015 13:33, Johannes Meixner wrote:
In any case, an inexperienced user should, in most cases,
not be starting a web server or other complex service.

Unfortunately I used an existing service name for my example
which leads to misunderstanding.

I rephrase what I was thinking about:
When an unexperienced user reads in whatever documentation
that he must for example "start foo", then YaST should
provide a user interface, where even an unexperienced user
can find something that matches his intent to "start foo"
where YaST does everything so that the "foo" thingy works.

Purpose of Yast is to make complex things simpler.

This is exactly what I am talking about but it contradicts
what Kenneth Wimer wrote:

There is no way to make an interface for highly complex
processes that is simple enough for an inexperienced user
without expecting too much of them or simplifying things
down, which in turn angers every other user.

I understand what Kenneth wrote as (perhaps oversimplified):
There is no way to make complex things simpler.

In fact, printing is one of the simplest things

A even more perfect reason to get rid of the overcomplicated
YaST printer module because printing is so simple that nobody
needs the current YaST bloatware module for it.

Kind Regards
Johannes Meixner
SUSE LINUX GmbH - GF: Felix Imendoerffer, Jane Smithard, Jennifer Guild,
Dilip Upmanyu, Graham Norton - HRB 21284 (AG Nuernberg)

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