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Re: [yast-devel] Popcorn YaST install integration
  • From: Ionuț Arțăriși <iartarisi@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:45:49 +0200
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On 04/30/2012 09:40 AM, Jiří Suchomel wrote:
V Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:32:29 +0530
Akshit Khurana<axitkhurana@xxxxxxxxx> napsáno:


I'm working on Popcorn[1] for openSUSE this summer. Popcorn will
gather statistics determining popular packages in openSUSE, and later
for other distributions as well.

Interesting. I see two possible places (there are probably more) where
we could ask user for permission to send their data

- during installation process, at some place in the workflow, there
could be a checkbox (similar to that Debian one). That way most
users would see it and could react. However, there are too many
options in installation already, and we'd be adding new...

Hey, I'm Akshit's mentor for this GSOC project.

Since both smolt and popcorn would collect statistics about the user's machine (hardware profile + installed packages), I think the two checkboxes should appear together during the installation process. I think it makes sense from a UI POV, since the user is thinking about how private (vs helpful?) they want to be with their data at this point anyway.

Presenting the two (smolt and popcorn) together, under the new "Send Statistical Information" checkbox would be a great idea IMHO.

> - it could be "hidden" in some of the configuration menus of YaST
> software management module. This would be more relevant place for
> gathering packages data, but users would not see it unless they'd
> specifically look for it.

I don't think this would be very helpful. The number of users who would activate popcorn if they had to look for the activation button would probably be much too small to make the project viable. This number of users would be limited by their knowing about popcorn (how would they find out about it in the first place?). Hell, I wouldn't use it if I had to make an effort to activate it each time I installed a machine (think about VMs that you only use for a specific purpose for a limited amount of time).

To answer Thomas's earlier question as well: there is no relationship between the smolt and popcorn projects at this point, but maybe at a later point in time collaboration between the two projects will happen. I think that a good start for popcorn is to get it implemented in openSUSE. Later we can think about integrating with smolt or other distributions as well.

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