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Re: [yast-devel] WebYaST (next) Possible user experience improvements
  • From: Josef Reidinger <jreidinger@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:35:34 +0100
  • Message-id: <200911131435.35468.jreidinger@xxxxxxx>
Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett write:
Here is the list of improvements I would like to see in a future (after
release) iteration. Some of them may have bugs already, others may not. I
would like to get some feedback before making bugs reports. I hope also
that we get more priority to make the core product great to use instead of
the old- classic "add a module to configure foobar" (which is something
ISVs should better do)

*) System services:

* collectd working... (running) start stop status
* cron working... (running) start stop status
* dbus working... (running) start stop status

Isn't that too much to read?

- I suggest to use a small icon to show if running or not), may be a
slightly animated heartbeat (soft to the eyes).
- Start and stop do not need to be separated, you can't have stop if it is
not started, they can use the same state (toggle) so the text switches to
stop after you start.
- I did not understand the "status" link, for me it looks more than a
"refresh" of the "running" text. This can be done by either having just one
refresh link for all, or just poll the server for changes using ajax.

*) Registration

The text "regcode-sles". IIRC this is a limitation of the current stack
because this text comes from suseRegister. So it can be fixed in the future
and now is a known limitation and not a usability bug.

*) Time

The two comboboxes could be replaced with an interactive worldmap + a
textbox to freewrite with autocompletion so you can either use mouse or
keyboard. The textbox can also not be present at all.

Also, I think for entering the date we should have a calendar input. We had
one, but I see it is not longer there.

It is bug, it should work (maybe related to broken date format).

*) Network

A common problem of system managements applications is to accidentally
expose the configuration file format :-) an example:

Name servers : [_____________________]

What I am suppose to enter there? It asks with plural, there is a single
field. What is "prefixlen"?

Also, I think this is reported, if you click next, settings are saved, if
you are using DHCP your ip changes and^^^NO CARRIER

Another issue that may apply to other modules too is to make the difference
between the value that is retrieved from a textfield, to the value that is
displayed when it is empty. The user may not know the meaning of an empty
field. For example if using DHCP one could fill the nameservers field with
"Will be auto discovered". This is also valid for fields that are not
disabled, where a text for the empty state helps the user to make a meaning
of the text being empty

*) Mail settings

If security is disabled, then username/password should be disabled. If the
server is not configured, then even the security checkbox can be disabled

*) Administrator password

The 3 save buttons is confusing. IIRC kkaempf already reported this. It is
confusing because this module has the ability of doing instant apply before
clicking next, while network saves at "next" clicking time.

"Forward mail to", what goes there? an email address? How the user guess
that? he needs to think, which is what we want to avoid. Here it may
useful to enter an example greyed text that dissapears when focus is on
the field (the field value still could evaluate to empty)

*) General

- Maintainer easter-egg
I have asked 150 times in irc "who is doing the X module?", therefore I
suggest a easter egg keyboard shortcut that once pressed a hidden <div> at
the bottom emerges, with a gravatar and name/login of the maintainer/s :-)
plus a report bug link

I agree especially I see in last few days that very huge amount of bugs is
assigned to me :)

Josef Reidinger
YaST team
maintainer of perl-Bootloader, YaST2-Repair, webyast
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