On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:43:33 -0400 Anton Aylward wrote: <snipped>
Possibly you and I have different ideas of 'get out of the way' for a DE.
This is a cruical point. I don't mean 'minimalist,' I mean highly polished and consistent, predictable, well thought out and equally well implemented ... not a lot of 'rough edges'. IOW, I want to forget that I'm using it so I can focus all my attention on my work. There isn't a day that goes by that I'm not annoyed by things that 'just worked' in GNOME2, that incidentally 'just work' in Cinnamon, and that are only 99% implemented in KDE4: [Aside: My methodology relies heavily upon using consistent window sizes across all desktops ... not all one size, mind you, but specific sizes. As in Legos, they're standardized because they conveniently 'snap together' and rearrange easily as my work requirements change. See here: https://www.cehartung.com/dl/20140720-desktop.png] I run many terminals, as you can see. In GNOME2 (and Cinnamon,) I "Ctrl+Minus Sign" four times, move the window into position and move on to my next window. In KDE4, I "Ctrl+Minus Sign" four times then shrink the window to match the reduced font size. In GNOME2 (and Cinnamon,) you can open up the next terminal from the open one and it already matches both the window size and font -- no fuss, no muss. In KDE4, the window size you get is a crap shoot and you always have to "Ctrl+Minus Sign" to reduce the font size. (Meh, indeed...) When I send a terminal from one desktop to another, it invariably shrinks down so it's just large enough to display the prompt. I have to place one corner where I want it and then stretch the window out again to it's former size -- which, by the way, I can never get back to the original without first 'snapping' vertically and then horizontally to another window as I resize it. This can only be avoided by setting 'On all desktops' first, switching to the target desktop, then setting the window back to 'Not on all desktops.' While this does manage to preserve window size, it is much more time consuming and convoluted than simply right-clicking the title bar and selecting 'send to' a desktop. Here's another one... I can 'anchor' the top edge of a window to the bottom edge of another window that is rolled-up ('shaded' - meaning just the title bar is visible) and I can then stretch the bottom edge of that window down until it 'snaps to' the bottom of the display, but I cannot do the reverse: 'snap' the bottom edge of a window to the bottom of the display and stretch the top _up_ and snap it to another window -- shaded up or not. The behavior is like trying to push two like poles of two magnets together ... it absolutely will not be coached into proper position. You have to reduce the window height, anchor it at the top and then stretch the bottom down, and this is consistent. Oh, then there's the issue of always opening up windows at the top left corner of the display (or of the 'available desktop space') so they must be dragged across two displays into position. In GNOME2 (and Cinnamon,) windows virtually always open at the exact size and position as when last closed. Okay, time for me to go back to bed now. There's a few items for you to ponder G'night! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org