Since I've been out of the mainframe world for about 13 years, what happened to the mainframe style "full screen" text editors being standard in Linux. Like, XEDIT, KEDIT, ISPF. And I know about vi, kate, and kwrite BUT these are NOT full screen "text" editors - these are full screen "line" editor. Unlike, XEDIT, where you can move, copy, insert, delete, etc - easily - "blocks" of lines I know versions of these exist, like the "THE" editor. However, why haven't these become the "standard" ? (Even XEDIT, starts basically in character basic "console" mode (no graphics capabilities needed), which could be run in a Linux console session) Having a "system programming" background, I just don't understand why anyone would put up with a "line" editor. Seeking insight, Duaine -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / dahechler@att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com Home & Business user of Linux - 13 years -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org