Guys, Over the past week or so, I have had terrible problems with thunderbird and firefox not quitting when you tell them to resulting in either and error message when you try and restart them telling you they are still running and you have to quit them first before you can restart them or just screwing up your session so that firefox and thunderbird unexpectedly start the next time you launch your desktop (kde set to save session on exit) I thought something with kde session manager was botched at first and I would just either edit or delete ksmserverrc, but then when I got the error about Firefox and Thunderbird needing to be shutdown before being restarted, things started to make a little more sense. For example, when thunderbird fails to shutdown, the process that continue to run are either one or more of: thunderbird thunderbird-bin thunderbird.sh Setting up a small script to check for them and kill them straightened this out, but that doesn't answer the question of what's broke or how to fix it. Has anyone else seen this behavior? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org