<replies embedded> Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Tuesday, 2009-04-14 at 18:36 -0400, Dan Goodman wrote:
so no, Kde is not mandatory (even if I like and use mostly kde 3.5)
But it is the "preferred" and recommended interface of openSuSE, is it not?
No, it is not. There is no recommended desktop. Having one would offend the rest of the people using another one.
Thank you for the correction. I was working from memory and also work on a lot of similar, but not identical systems, and I "remembered" it as being recommended when I did my upgrade to 11.1. Perhaps I am confusing it with Novell SLE* products?
and if we want something done, it's better to be constructive (and short)
As in, if I observe a lot of things I think are wrong, I shouldn't list them, because it won't change anything, and anyway it will be too long.
Sorry, but if I just write the first part of a point, someone will come back and say, as I have seen elsewhere, and with others debating KDE, "Oh, that is not really what you think it is" or "Well, you aren't contributing to this project, so don't even post."
So I would prefer to take down all the arguments I have seen, that I consider spurious, at one time, if possible.
If your mail is too long, we'll simply skip it entirely or partially. No time to read it all, sorry.
If I feel that I have something to say that cannot be fully covered in a short post, I will continue to write what I want to say, provided I believe that someone might want to read it on this list. (I don't have time to read all of the posts due to their sheer number, but it would be futile for me to try to get people to only post about things I think are relevant, too.) Now, if someone gets up a nearly unanimous petition to get me to stop filling up the forum's bandwidth, filesystem, etc/ then I will reconsider. But there are only two reasons I can see to object to a long post (anyone's). The first is that it consumes excessive resources or that a specific user doesn't have time to read it. If it is the latter, then the mere existence of a long post does you no harm, unless there are lots and lots of them frequently. And I had forgotten that some of the readers of this list might be under the thumb of a local PT&T, and have to still pay to d/l this forum. Is that in fact true, though? Or, although I can scarcely imagine it, do people read this forum on their cellphone? Nevertheless, now that I have stated my position on the only really big issue I have with openSuSE, I will not (I hope) have as much to write about, and you will see me less often, and/or with less detail I want to cover.
30 KB!
I work in an almost entirely SLE* shop, except for some end-user desktops and a few rogue apps, but our mail system is M$ Exchange. Was that my actual character count, or the total size when packaged by Exchange. I guess-timated a couple of my long ones as being five to ten paper pages, at rough 1K words per page, so I guess it might have been the character count. However, when I do feel that there is something I want to say a lot about, and there may be some who express an interest in reading it, I will try to be a good neighbor, and will try to put "[long]" in the subject line (a la some old Usenet group customs), so you don't have to d/l it first, only to find out that it exceeds your reading quota regardless of its content. And I will try to get in the habit of getting my char count before and after I write, and try to set a reasonable cutoff for the long tag. Don't see that immediately as an option in Thunderbird, but it must be in there. BTW, you didn't mean to imply that you read all posts if they aren't long, did you? Wish I could, but I tend to graze for what I am interested in at the time, and have to let the rest go by, no matter how good it might be. -- Dan Goodman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org