Am I the only one who's happy with v11.1 and KDE4? I'm a cautious user. Here at home, we have four machines running Linux -- our server, my desktop workstation, my wife's desktop workstation, and one of my laptops. My laptop isn't an important machine. It doesn't archive emails, or run Apache. It's not an FTP server. It's just a machine that I can use to read and write emails (as I'm doing now), and browse the web. So it seemed like the perfect first choice to try the new stuff. After using 11.0 with KDE4, and updating it to 11.1 with KDE4, my experience was so generally favorable on the laptop that i likewise updated my desktop. Once I found that everything I need on that machine seemed unaffected by the update, I did the same with my wife's desktop. She loves it. It was with grave trepidation that i considered updating the server. It was working fine with v10.3 and KDE3. And that's where our email archives, shared DejaClick macros, digital images, MP3s, and ripped DVDs are. Not to mention my web site, mono projects, and our svn repositories. In fact, I did have problems with the NIS server that prevented us from logging on to the other machines as ordinary users. After a couple days of trying everything else, and double-checking everything, I finally resolved that by removing the NIS server and reinstalling it. Problem solved. In hindsight, I could have fixed it in about 10 minutes if I'd only done that to start with. So we now have all four machines running v11.1 and KDE4. Neither of us has found anything that we wanted to do with KDE3 that we can't do with KDE4. And so far, I'm lovin' it! For sure, there are going to be bugs to fix, and features to implement. The same was true of every earlier version. But I'm delighted with what we have so far, and looking forward to what's yet to come. Merry Christmas, all. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org