On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:30 AM, Amedee Van Gasse
Larry Stotler schreef:
That's why a lot of us bring up these things here.
You don't have time to file a bug report but you have th time to write your very long email? I'm afraid that your priorities are wrong.
I don't have time to start on a new mailing list, go through the last few months of archives to ensure that I don't get bashed for asking things that have already been covered or decided, etc. I barely have enough time to keep up with the 4 lists on openSUSE I am already subscribed to.
However, what a lot of you guys seem to miss out is that a lot of openSUSE users don't hang out on these lists and they don't make their thought available.
Perhaps they should. This is Software Libre. It is your moral duty to share. That means not only sharing the software, but also sharing your ideas about what is wrong.
We know that, but a lot of new Linux users got it from a magazine or from a friend just to test it out. I started using SuSE in 1999, but didn't actually become a part of these lists till 2005 IIRC. Of course, I didn't have a high speed internet connection until 2004. I always bought my upgrades when I could actually find them. I would email SuSE to get the US ISBN number, and sometimes they would be able to get it back to me. The only way I had to get it was usually at a bookstore. Sometimes I could get install CDs from magazines.
Also, a lot of 11.0 users are probably still using KDE4.04 because they don't KNOW that you can add in the build service and update it.
Indeed, I didn't know that. Going to try that right now, and if it b0rks my box well the so be it ;-)
Good luck. You at least proved my point. While so many are saying that the missing features have been added or the bugs fixed, that may NOT be the case for many.
KDE4 in 11.1 is an OpenSuse decision, not a KDE decision. In other words, "you guys" is not always the same people. As far as I can tell, the decision to include KDE4 as default desktop in 11.1 *is* a valid point of discussion for an opensuse mailing list. All other arguments in this thread are white noise, sorry.
Actually, the factory list is probably more appropriate than this one. That's where a lot of the work to get KDE4 working has been done.
My 2 cents.
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