On Thursday 04 December 2008 00:30, Herbert Graeber wrote:
Am Mittwoch 03 Dezember 2008 23:27:25 schrieb Larry Stotler:
KDE4 tries to port everything worth doing things the new way. Unfortunately this needs mcu hresources in people and time, so not everything is read from the start and some things will be left behind.
What was so wrong with the old way? Oh wait, they wanted to add bling, and KDE3 couldn't do it. That's the motivation.
This bling is neccessary, to meet expectations of potential new users. The only thing that's wrong with the old way, that it may be in the way, when there is a new more flexible method, to achive the same or better results.
That's strange.. Everyone I talk to wants things to just work. Bling isn't necessary.
A clean KDE4 (without anything from KDE left) will need less resources then KDE3 alone.
That's the rumor. So far I haven't seen it.
Sure that's the future. Currently ther are some things, where one needs KDE3 applications to fill the gap.
In the mean time, we put up with half a desktop that doesn't work.
But to get the features, you want, you have to convince the KDE developers. The openSUSE project can only keep KDE3 alive for another version of the distribution, but some day KDE3 is really dead and in terms of progress it is already dead right now.
Give me easy options to turn off eye-candy. And no, I don't NEED widgets. They are useless to me and annoying. Like the OS X and Vista Dock. Is KDE4 going to have a way to emulate the KDE3 desktop? If so, then what was the point?
Use a folder plasmoid, that covers the whole desktop and some plasmoids in the panel instead of task icons and you have nearly the same like a KDE3 desktop.
The last time I saw this, I had to ask. What the heck is a plasmoid? Or a widget? The answer I got was that somewhere there is an entire place that explains everything. Gee, that's great. But in the meantime I don't have a working desktop, and can't figure it out. I need to go somewhere to get instructions. Let's see. From Kde1 to 2, and then to 3, I didn't have to do this. When installed, it picked up the old setup, and kept right on working. I didn't have to completely re-do the settings.
Sure, there are some things missing. KDE devolpers working for Novel have backported many features of KDE 4.2, because openSUSE users demand them. But have alokk on http://planetkde.org: Not all KDE developers like that, because they will get many additional bug reports because of this.
Everything has two sides...
Yea, it's the KDE4 way, or no way. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 10.0 Kernel 2.6.13 X86_64 KDE 3.4 Kmail 1.8 8:49am up 56 days 12:58, 4 users, load average: 1.09, 1.14, 1.15 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org