On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 13:11 +0100, Lars Müller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 08:28:11AM +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 12:26 +0100, Lars Müller wrote:
Add wins at the end of this line. IIRC we recently had a discussion to support this from inside YaST too.
It would make sense. After all the work to set up letting a machine join the AD, it seems odd to leave this undone.
Microsoft Windows Active Directory heavily relies on DNS.
WINS is still available but the default name resoloution mechanism is DNS since ages even for Microsoft.
Using a split DNS <-> WINS name scope might result in strange(tm) issues.
You're preaching to the choir here. Oddly, our IT guys still have a mixed setup. I do not know if it is because they also have Netware in the mix. But there are some things that can only be resolved in one or the other of the systems. As 99.999999999999% of the folk use a centrally administered Windows XP machine, they don't see the issue. Us poor standards guys (e.g., DNS users) encounter the oddities.
Granted they are really different things. But still, it would make sense that if YaST is doing part of the work, it should do the rest.
100% coverage isn't possible. You know the very simple 80:20 rule? You need 80% of your time to implement the remaining 20% of 100% coverage.
Of course. But I would imagine that adding more and more of these things with each subsequent release is way YaST development is led, no? Of course, if it is used by a minority of the users, it will always be a low priority item.
Or, as a minimum, in the info panel to the left, tell which obvious things are not being done. That is always the trick with using auto setups like YaST (but not at all exclusive to YaST):
This is valid critic! Such hints would be nice. Maybe with the opportunity to search the Support DataBase (SDB) straight from inside YaST.
knowing how much they did and how much they did not do. All the time saved in letting them set up something that is tricky is often then lost trying to figure out which things they did not do.
Please keep your special setup in mind. A split DNS and WINS data base isn't what the majority of MS AD setups use. Unfortunately in this case you're part of the 20%. ;)
I cannot say what the numbers are either. But I bet there are more with a mixed setup than you would think. Our IT department manages systems for over 5000 people. Having only one system for name resolution would, indeed, make sense. But where is the job security in that approach :) -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 And remember: It is RSofT and there is always something under construction. It is like talking about large city with all constructions finished. Not impossible, but very unlikely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org