I've tried several times installing and only can get the wireless card to work with Gnome. I used ndiswrapper with the 64bit driver for the board in both but can't get the iwconfig to show wlan0 in kde. As you can tell, I am new at this so have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't have the lspci -vt from the kde installations. But there is where I discovered that the driver was needing to be 64bit and found it online. Intel Desktop Board D945GCCR 2 GB Ram Dual boot with W$XP. Thanks, Vince lspci -vt results when in Gnome. -[0000:00]-+-00.0 Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ/P/PL Memory Controller Hub +-01.0-[0000:01]----00.0 nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT +-1b.0 Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller +-1c.0-[0000:02]-- +-1c.2-[0000:03]-- +-1c.3-[0000:04]-- +-1d.0 Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 +-1d.1 Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 +-1d.2 Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 +-1d.3 Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 +-1d.7 Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller +-1e.0-[0000:05]--+-04.0 Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless | \-08.0 Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network Connection +-1f.0 Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge +-1f.1 Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller +-1f.2 Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller \-1f.3 Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org