Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Basil Chupin escribió:
Beta 2 (of v11.0) is NOT a beta of a totally new distribution but a continuation of an existing, tested, and proven line of a major and respected Linux distribution.
No, wrong.
Something which was working perfectly well should not be fouled up, and requiring to have bugzilla reports made about it.
I see the idea is just trolling ..
'You' cannot hide forever behind the "but it is just a Beta version". It is an excuse not used anywhere that I am aware of - but please do educate me - except here when someone points out a flaw in openSUSE. (All getting to be quite pathetic really.)
it is a BETA version of an almost completely new codebase, it has bugs for sure.. looks like you dont have any experience with software development, troll.
A new release is always a struggle and changes to some core apps, udev, etc. can break a lot of stuff. However, we should all revisit the history of the Mandrake collapse after it went public and quality tanked and keep that lesson in mind as the release date for 11.0 rapidly approaches. What transpires in the next 50 days will say a lot about Novell. Whether the focus has turned to racing version # next out the door ready or not, or whether openSuSE will continue to be released as a polished, finished and reliable distribution that works, out of the box, the slight repair-install problems of 10.3 notwithstanding. For those that have experienced a distro implosion by a dramatic decrease in quality, the warning bells are ringing. A host of little issues are still up in the air like, Will the release have a working desktop?, and a number of nasty little things like that. I certainly hope all of these issues will be resolved and we won't go through a release with Gigabyte size updates and patches to finally get stability, but that is yet to be seen. I agree with Basil that previously working packages should not be broken in a T minus 50 day and counting beta unless there are a relatively few udev like gotchas lingering that are known and being worked. The scope and number of the current problems does look a bit chaotic from a list reading standpoint. I don't think anyone is trolling for a fight and I think we all share a commitment to see 11.0 be a successful release that won't adversely affect either the SuSE or Novell names. The shear number of willing testers and effort expended with the beta is evidence enough of that. Tensions are high and there is a great deal of shared concern regarding the readiness of the release. I remain confident in the testers and developers ability. However, we don't need to waste any productive energy engaged sniping. Let's get the bugs fixed, decide on a desktop and make sure this isn't a release that crashes during install or frequently thereafter scaring all new users away and further perpetuating the myth that Linux isn't ready for mainstream desktop use yet. my .02 -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org