On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 18:10 +0100, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
Samstag, 5. Januar 2008 jdd:
Tom Patton a écrit :
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 18:59 +0100, jdd wrote:
jdd, Tom, pardon my french, but do you realize how braindead this is? Writing a boot script to fix a confirmed and resolvable bug which is starting to grow really old and smelly in the pipeline?
Instead of doing the right thing and go bug and *help* the people that have the ability and responsibility to fix the bugs they've introduced way too many linux folks tend to happily spend hours of creating hapless and embarrassing workarounds.
I think that's the dark side of geek culture: For any given problem we rather create 10 ridiculous kludges instead of come up with the one obvious solution (fixing the original problem).
The irony of this: Linux geeks are totally unaware of the FUD this creates among non-geeks who want to get rid of windows because of microsoft's FUD.
Wolfgang I agree with you to a point.
I did not have a chance to look into why the bttv driver failed to load on reboot, and then I noticed the other report here with the same issue, and thence the black-list information. I had my own work-thru going, and it was VERY low priority at the time. (For one reason, this pc typically runs weeks at a time, unless there is a kernel update or a power outage.) Perhaps I miss-read the bug report, but it sounded as tho the pci system failed to identify some generic cards, and so they shot-gunned it with the black-listing to opt out of loading the driver mindlessly without user intervention. That seems very prudent to me. Over-ruling that decision by commenting out the black-list seems to work in MY situation, and I don't have to manually load the bttv driver. I do not see this as a major issue, or one that fuels the MS war. I'm reasonably certain that the root cause will eventually be resolved, and THEY will remove the black-list sheriff ANYWAY. Imagine the odds of even BEING ABLE TO WORK_AROUND in a MS system!!! Good luck with THAT chore, sir. I'm sure this WOULD have been a windoz show-stopper, with the only hope to wait 6 months for an update!!! Give me SuSE ANY DAY! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org