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Re: [opensuse] My desktop has become "lazy" lately
  • From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:17:16 +0100 (CET)
  • Message-id: <alpine.LSU.0.9999.0712170148510.1369@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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The Sunday 2007-12-16 at 16:28 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote:

Good idea... but it doesn't appear to be that easy.
Never is :-(.

It would likely be at the kernel level - like the kernel is going into
a "low-load" setting -- since your system isn't suspending or going to
sleep. There are some cpu scheduling modules in the kernel (util
'powertop' makes suggestions for modules to include for laptop or
low power systems. Something the "cpufreq_ondemand" module in the
in a suse stock kernel ( I see cpufreq modules for
conservative, ondemand, powersave.

In some kernel version (gee, am just so specific -- I read information
in greater amounts than my brain auto-indexes... (:-))

Doesn't happen to us all? :-)

I thought
there was a bug in some later kernel version concerning the new
tickless kernel and the ondemand-cpu module, but I don't think
the tickless patches are in 2.6.18.

tickless... sounds familiar.

I wonder if there are any ways
to tweak those modules -- but it appears they would only be used
on a system that has a variable cpu frequency -- so unless you have
that hardware....(what hw did you say you had?)...

I'm not sure if my hardware has that capacity. It is a pentium IV @ 1800, single cpu. Lets see what /proc says:

nimrodel:~/notas # cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 15
model : 1
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 1800.190
cache size : 256 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm
bogomips : 3603.26
clflush size : 64

Then, in /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/*


processor id: 0
acpi id: 1
bus mastering control: no
power management: yes
throttling control: yes
limit interface: yes


active limit: P0:T0
user limit: P0:T0
thermal limit: P0:T0


active state: C2
max_cstate: C8
bus master activity: fb7ef96b
maximum allowed latency: 6666 usec
C1: type[C1] promotion[C2] demotion[--] latency[000]
usage[16988520] duration[00000000000000000000]
*C2: type[C2] promotion[--] demotion[C1] latency[090]
usage[42284950] duration[00000000738930421870]


state count: 2
active state: T0
*T0: 00%
T1: 50%

My suspect is the clock. I was having problems with the default system clock, which is 'acpi_pm', which had delays of several minutes per hour. I changed to 'tsc', which works, although the kernel complains during boot:

nimrodel:~ # grep -i "clock\|tsc\|TSC" /var/log/boot.msg
<6>Time: tsc clocksource has been installed.
<6>Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac
<4>Marking TSC unstable due to: possible TSC halt in C2. <===
<6>Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed.
<6>intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 50881 usecs
<6>intel8x0: clocking to 48000
doneSetting up the hardware clockdone


Dec 8 13:56:52 nimrodel kernel: Clocksource tsc unstable (delta =
32800377181 ns)

However, I think I had instances of these freezing episodes weeks ago, before I set the 'tsc' clock, so...

I have no idea.

Another symptom:

Twice, completely randomly, the system froze. The last time was several days ago. The keyboard stopped responding, the mouse, the display... I thought of powering another machine and entering through ssh; but the moment the other machine had finished booting up, my main machine continued working as if nothing had happened.

This has happened twice, and it is very weird. The only thing I know for sure is that it is a software issue of suse 10.3: they started the day after I upgraded.

- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.

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