On Sunday 09 September 2007 07:39, Clayton wrote:
Just wondering... why is it that the Gnome version of YAST is so dramatically different from the KDE one in openSUSE 10.3 Beta3?
I haven't used Gnome on SUSE in a very long time, but I don't remember YAST being any different between KDE and Gnome in previous versions. The Gnome version of YAST is unwieldy and hard to use - not that the KDE one is a good example, but it is certainly much much better than the Gnome one.
Isn't it a bit of a major usability issue if the core tools that set SUSE apart from all the other distributions are so inconsistent/different?
Actually difference alone is not usability issue. It is more opportunity to see different approach, give it a time, ...
Also.. who thought that the Gnome version of YAST software installer is a good thing? Was it actually tested with users?
... test it, make opinion on particular soultions, propose/vote for better offer. Nothing is set in stone. General complaint "I don't like (because I'm not used to it)" is what we hear from Windows users often. It is not helpful, can't bring anything forward except endles "discussion" who likes what.
Does anyone else find it to be a very poor UI design?
Not in every respect, for sure. Icons I don't like, but with limited number of pixels, rules about style and usability designer have no many options left. The most annoying about icons is that I have to read the text to find out what they are about. That is another effect of small sizes; too many are similar. On the other side I like Gtk Control Center with all modules listed, so if I need one, just scroll and use it. No more multiple clicks to reach the target. No multiple lines to explain in a mail how to reach some function, just name it and it will be found. Should I say that in Windows XP first thing I do in 'Control panel' is to switch to classic style. I would like to see every module to implement the same idea. Default screen simple for novices, advanced options grouped in as big chunks as reasonable, dangerous ones, another click separated from the rest. The Qt GUI is designed to be similar to the text mode, but it doesn't work the same way. For instance Control Center: In text mode, in left pane, you move highlight using cursor keys up and down, then when you want to jump to right pane cursor-right, and than again up and down to select module. In GUI you can't jump to the right pane using cursor keys. This is one small example of differences, that doesn't bug us as we are used to them, but they exist. BTW, thank you to bring up this topic. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org