On Monday 05 March 2007 08:38:44 pm John Andersen wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007, Russell Jones wrote:
John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Kai Ponte wrote:
I remember thinking that the Gnome group were a bunch of whining children about the whole idea and that creating a second desktop would do more overall harm than good.
Rather than concentrate on writing a replacement for the one part of KDE that wasn't totally free (QT) they set out to rebuild the world but without a blueprint or even a coherent plan. The internals of Gnome are a mess.
So you don't disagree with their objectives or objections, just the way they went about it?
I'm never opposed to anyone spending their time on alternative solutions if that is what they wanted to do.
Agreed. We'd still be living in caves and running from saber-toothed tigers if we didn't pursue a better option.
I would have expected something BETTER THAN what whey were trying to replace to come out of such a project, but in every case, with the possible exception of Evolution, everything out of the Gnome project is patently and obviously inferior to KDE in my opinion.
Was it devicive? Probably, but only due to the way they went about it. They never were about creating anything better, more imaginative or extensible. It was always ONLY about snubbing Trolltech.
John, I think you've hit the proverbial nail on the head. Though I see problems with Trolltech - in terms of their direction and them being a for-profit company behind an OSS model desktop - I always felt the Gnome camp went about their business for the sole reason of "snubbing Trolltech" as you said. We should have all rallied behind Trolltech to encourage them to adopt an OSS model earlier. Heck, I'll stand 100% behind those who use KDE, Enlightenment, IceWM, Blackbox or whatever. For those who use Gnome, I just shake my head in frustration. I believe that Linux - as a desktop alternative to Wintendo or Mac - would have been much farther along if Gnome hadn't gotten in the way and sucked resources from KDE. In fact, I see the purchase (or whatever) of Gnome by Novell as a bad thing (tm) due to the loss of good faith and people working to better KDE. </soapbox> -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com closing the doors that surround me so no one will ever penetrate complete my retreat just to wait for the day that never comes so i will laugh alone -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org