On 05-Nov-06 Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
I stopped receiving SuSE list mail on Oct 14 and didn't realize what's going on until this afternoon. lists.suse.de is listed in the sorbs dns-rbl database as a source of spam. As such, list messages will be silently dropped on many ISPs.
Check it out at http://www.au.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml.
It would seem that the list owner should contact sorbs to get de-listed.
I doubt it. See what SORBS themselves have to say about
getting de-listed from their spam database:
http://www.au.sorbs.net/faq/spamdb.shtml
Third and finally, if you are really not a spammer,
or you are truly reformed, de-listing is relatively
easy. You donate US$50 to a charity or trust approved
by, and not connected with, SORBS for each spam received
related to the listing. This is referred to as the SORBS
'fine'. Please note that we do not expect end users to
take this route if it is the case that the listing is
not related to your own actions, such as is most often
the case with ISP's outgoing mail servers, co-located
servers, free webmails, etc. being listed. In those
cases, the ISP involved needs to contact SORBS directly,
and if the end user contacts us instead, this will be
all we will be able to tell them.
Note: $50 *for each spam received related to the listing.*
And note that this applies even "if you are really not a
spammer". That could be a lot of money, where an IP address
or "originating" email address has been spoofed by a mass
spammer.
This has been discussed in a number of places. SORBS seem
to be unique in this policy.
My suggestion to Lew Wolfgang, in the light of the above,
is not to use an ISP that uses SORBS. Neither SuSE nor your
ISP is unlikely (for the above reasons) to negotiate with
SORBS to get the SuSE list delisted, so if you want to
receive the SuSE list then change your ISP. (Or, perhaps,
lobby them to drop SORBS; but good luck with that!)
(Note that, on my understanding of the above, it is the
SuSE list that is the "end user").
Best wishes,
Ted.
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