thanks Arun for your continuing help...seems to work...kind of...in other words, i ran a bunch of tests and kmail gave me no errors...the scary thing is...i sent emails from one account to another...and only received 3 out of 15...ie. not working completely... (i turned off the firewall for a second to see if that mattered. it didn't seem to. same thing with messing with the outgoing mail section of the mail transport in yast. again, didn't seem to affect anything.) here's my .kmailrc file found in /home/wmeler/.kde/share/config/ in case you can see anything glaringly wrong...going to try the old reboot and pray method. : [$Version] update_info=kmail.upd:1,kmail.upd:4,kmail.upd:5,kmail.upd:6,kmail.upd:7,kmail.upd:8,kmail.upd:9,kmail.upd:3.1-update-identities,kmail.upd:3.1-use-identity-uoids,kmail.upd:3.1-new-mail-notification,kmail.upd:3.2-update-loop-on-goto-unread-settings,kmail.upd:3.1.4-dont-use-UOID-0-for-any-identity,kmail.upd:3.2-misc,kmail.upd:3.2-moves,kmail.upd:3.3-use-ID-for-accounts,kmail.upd:3.3-move-identities-to-own-file,kmail.upd:3.3-aegypten-kpgprc-to-kmailrc,kmail.upd:3.3-misc,kmail.upd:3.3b1-misc,kmail.upd:3.4,kmail.upd:3.4a,kmail.upd:3.4b,kmail.upd:3.4.1,kmail.upd:3.3-update-filter-rules [Account 1] Folder=wmeler@gmail : inbox Id=1339783345 Name=Gmail POP Account (WMELER) Type=pop auth=USER check-exclude=false check-interval=13 filter-on-server=false filter-os-check-size=50000 host=pop.gmail.com leave-on-server=true login=wmeler@gmail.com pipelining=false port=995 precommand= sieve-alternate-url= sieve-port=2000 sieve-reuse-config=true sieve-support=false sieve-vacation-filename= store-passwd=true trash=trash use-ssl=true use-tls=false [Account 2] Folder=inbox Id=1147476846 Name=steve.carpenter@gmail.com Type=pop auth=USER check-exclude=false check-interval=3 filter-on-server=false filter-os-check-size=50000 host=pop.gmail.com leave-on-server=true login=steve.carpenter@gmail.com pipelining=false port=995 precommand= sieve-alternate-url= sieve-port=2000 sieve-reuse-config=true sieve-support=false sieve-vacation-filename= store-passwd=true trash=trash use-ssl=true use-tls=false [Composer] confirm-before-send=false crypto-encrypt-to-self=true crypto-show-encryption-result=false crypto-show-keys-for-approval=true crypto-store-encrypted=true crypto-warn-encr-chaincert-near-expire-int=14 crypto-warn-encr-key-near-expire-int=14 crypto-warn-encr-root-near-expire-int=14 crypto-warn-recv-not-in-cert=true crypto-warn-sign-chaincert-near-expire-int=14 crypto-warn-sign-key-near-expire-int=14 crypto-warn-sign-root-near-expire-int=14 crypto-warn-when-near-expire=true crypto-warning-unencrypted=false crypto-warning-unsigned=false current-transport=steve.carpenter@gmail.com headers=300 never-encrypt-drafts=true pgp-auto-encrypt=false pgp-auto-sign=false pref-charsets=us-ascii,iso-8859-1,locale,utf-8 previous-fcc=sent-mail previous-identity=17627084 [Composer Toolbar htmlToolBar] Hidden=true IconText=IconOnly Index=1 [Composer Toolbar mainToolBar] Index=0 [Folder-drafts] Compactable=true ContentsType=0 ExpireAction=Delete ExpireMessages=false ExpireToFolder= Id=736938936 Identity=0 IgnoreNewMail=false MailingListArchiveAddress= MailingListEnabled=false MailingListFeatures=0 MailingListHandler=0 MailingListHelpAddress= MailingListId= MailingListPostingAddress= MailingListSubscribeAddress= MailingListUnsubscribeAddress= NormalIconPath= PutRepliesInSameFolder=false ReadExpireAge=3 ReadExpireUnits=3 SystemLabel= TotalMsgs=-1 UnreadExpireAge=12 UnreadExpireUnits=0 UnreadIconPath= UnreadMsgs=-1 UseCustomIcons=false WhoField= htmlMailOverride=false isOpen=false [Folder-inbox] Compactable=true ContentsType=0 Current=0 CurrentSerialNum=5468 ExpireAction=Delete ExpireMessages=false ExpireToFolder= Id=1600839174 Identity=0 IgnoreNewMail=false MailingListArchiveAddress= MailingListEnabled=false MailingListFeatures=0 MailingListHandler=0 MailingListHelpAddress= MailingListId= MailingListPostingAddress= MailingListSubscribeAddress= MailingListUnsubscribeAddress= NormalIconPath= OrderOfArrival=true PutRepliesInSameFolder=false ReadExpireAge=3 ReadExpireUnits=3 SortColumn=-3 Status=false SystemLabel= Top=5294 TotalMsgs=5296 UnreadExpireAge=12 UnreadExpireUnits=0 UnreadIconPath= UnreadMsgs=5295 UseCustomIcons=false WhoField= htmlLoadExternalOverride=false htmlMailOverride=false isOpen=false threadMessagesBySubject=true threadMessagesOverride=false [Folder-outbox] Compactable=true ContentsType=0 Current=0 CurrentSerialNum=62103 ExpireAction=Delete ExpireMessages=false ExpireToFolder= Id=195675738 Identity=0 IgnoreNewMail=false MailingListArchiveAddress= MailingListEnabled=false MailingListFeatures=0 MailingListHandler=0 MailingListHelpAddress= MailingListId= MailingListPostingAddress= MailingListSubscribeAddress= MailingListUnsubscribeAddress= NormalIconPath= OrderOfArrival=true PutRepliesInSameFolder=false ReadExpireAge=3 ReadExpireUnits=3 SortColumn=3 Status=false SystemLabel= Top=0 TotalMsgs=0 UnreadExpireAge=12 UnreadExpireUnits=0 UnreadIconPath= UnreadMsgs=0 UseCustomIcons=false WhoField= htmlLoadExternalOverride=false htmlMailOverride=false isOpen=false threadMessagesBySubject=true threadMessagesOverride=false [Folder-sent-mail] Compactable=true ContentsType=0 Current=18 CurrentSerialNum=62102 ExpireAction=Delete ExpireMessages=false ExpireToFolder= Id=2078645525 Identity=0 IgnoreNewMail=false MailingListArchiveAddress= MailingListEnabled=false MailingListFeatures=0 MailingListHandler=0 MailingListHelpAddress= MailingListId= MailingListPostingAddress= MailingListSubscribeAddress= MailingListUnsubscribeAddress= NormalIconPath= OrderOfArrival=true PutRepliesInSameFolder=false ReadExpireAge=3 ReadExpireUnits=3 SortColumn=3 Status=false SystemLabel= Top=0 TotalMsgs=0 UnreadExpireAge=12 UnreadExpireUnits=0 UnreadIconPath= UnreadMsgs=0 UseCustomIcons=false WhoField= htmlLoadExternalOverride=false htmlMailOverride=false isOpen=false threadMessagesBySubject=true threadMessagesOverride=false [Folder-trash] Compactable=true ContentsType=0 Current=-1 CurrentSerialNum=0 ExpireAction=Delete ExpireMessages=false ExpireToFolder= Id=2069054061 Identity=0 IgnoreNewMail=false MailingListArchiveAddress= MailingListEnabled=false MailingListFeatures=0 MailingListHandler=0 MailingListHelpAddress= MailingListId= MailingListPostingAddress= MailingListSubscribeAddress= MailingListUnsubscribeAddress= NormalIconPath= OrderOfArrival=true PutRepliesInSameFolder=false ReadExpireAge=3 ReadExpireUnits=3 SortColumn=3 Status=false SystemLabel= Top=-1 TotalMsgs=0 UnreadExpireAge=12 UnreadExpireUnits=0 UnreadIconPath= UnreadMsgs=0 UseCustomIcons=false WhoField= htmlLoadExternalOverride=false htmlMailOverride=false isOpen=false threadMessagesBySubject=true threadMessagesOverride=false [Folder-wmeler@gmail : inbox] Compactable=true ContentsType=0 Current=4268 CurrentSerialNum=4275 ExpireAction=Delete ExpireMessages=false ExpireToFolder= Id=408331686 Identity=0 IgnoreNewMail=false MailingListArchiveAddress= MailingListEnabled=false MailingListFeatures=0 MailingListHandler=0 MailingListHelpAddress= MailingListId= MailingListPostingAddress= MailingListSubscribeAddress= MailingListUnsubscribeAddress= NormalIconPath= OrderOfArrival=true PutRepliesInSameFolder=false ReadExpireAge=3 ReadExpireUnits=3 SortColumn=3 Status=false SystemLabel= Top=4260 TotalMsgs=56782 UnreadExpireAge=12 UnreadExpireUnits=0 UnreadIconPath= UnreadMsgs=56778 UseCustomIcons=false WhoField= htmlLoadExternalOverride=false htmlMailOverride=false isOpen=false threadMessagesBySubject=true threadMessagesOverride=false [Folder_local_root] isOpen=true [Folder_search] isOpen=false [Fonts] body-font=Sans Serif,11,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 composer-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 defaultFonts=false fixed-font=monospace,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 folder-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 list-date-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 list-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 list-important-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 list-new-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 list-unread-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 print-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 quote1-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 quote2-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 quote3-font=Sans Serif,10,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 [General] Default domain=127.0.0.1 accounts=2 beep-on-mail=false checkmail-startup=true customDateFormat= dateFormat=2 first-start=false folders=$HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail previous-version=1.8.2 showAttachmentIcon=true showCryptoIcons=false showMessageSize=false transports=2 [Geometry] ColumnOrder=0 ColumnWidths=156 ConfigureDialogHeight=738 ConfigureDialogWidth=783 FolderList=long FolderPaneWidth=160 HeaderPaneHeight=570 HeaderPaneWidth=972 Identity Dialog size=482,448 MainWin=1138,851 ReaderPaneHeight=275 SortAscending=true SortColumn=0 folderTree=160 nestingPolicy=3 readerWindowMode=below [Internal] MsgDictSizeHint=0 PreviousNewFeaturesMD5=lwDASbusv7rDd0DHVB5rGA== [MDN] default-policy=3 not-send-when-encrypted=true quote-message=1 [Reader] AutoImportKeys=false MimeTreeLocation=bottom MimeTreeMode=smart RecycleQuoteColors=false attachment-strategy=smart defaultColors=true encoding= header-set-displayed=rich header-style=fancy htmlLoadExternal=false htmlMail=true showColorbar=true showSpamStatus=true useFixedFont=false [SearchDialog] DateWidth=120 FolderWidth=100 SearchWidgetHeight=505 SearchWidgetWidth=611 SenderWidth=120 SubjectWidth=150 [Startup] update-level=20 [Transport 1] auth=true authtype=PLAIN encryption=TLS host=smtp.gmail.com id=219102902 localHostname=127.0.0.1 name=steve.carpenter@gmail.com port=587 precommand= specifyHostname=false storepass=true user=steve.carpenter@gmail.com [Transport 2] auth=true authtype=PLAIN encryption=TLS host=smtp.gmail.com id=1677736904 localHostname=127.0.0.1 name=wmeler@gmail.com port=587 precommand= specifyHostname=false storepass=true type=smtp user=wmeler@gmail.com [sending mail] Immediate=true Quoted-Printable=true --------------------- cheers, wmeler