It sounds obvious but what does really make a massive difference is your aerial. Make sure you have a very good aerial. It's no good having an indoor one unless you have a super duper strong signal in your area. Even then you might struggle. The trouble is that internal tv tuner cards desperately need a good strong signal otherwise you'll get nothing. I've found this even in Windows using the proprietary drivers that came with my card (Pinnacle PCTV Media Center 300i). I have found that in a medium to strong area I need a designated digital aerial outside on the roof to get anywhere near a good signal for this. Yet, I can run a set top box from an internal aerial no problem. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR