Pascal Bleser wrote:
So what do you actually want ? IIRC you've been complaining a few times that openSUSE is "not open".
I think probably I have :-)
That may very well be constructive criticism, but what do you want ? Give some ideas, directions, proposals.
Given that Novell/SUSE are already struggling with this internally and have not really invited public participation in their discussion, I've held back. When they're prepared to discuss this in the open, I'll add my 2Rappen.
You want to tell the SUSE devs what packages belong into the SUSE Linux product ?
Not me personally, no. There a few things I'd like to have a say in, but which packages get included, I'm not too worried about.
Are you going to do the support for those packages ? Are you going to test, Q&A it, take care of new releases, integrate and write security fixes, backport patches into those ?
Nope, but that's beside the point.
And if you don't care about the packaging, what is it exactly that you want to be able to do and that you currently cannot ?
Pascal, all I said was that your statement "that anyone who wants a say in the opensuse product/project management has no clue about it", is wrong and more than a little arrogant. As for my own participation in openSUSE, it's currently restricted to bugreports only - I think there are many others areas where community input would be useful. For instance (as you may be aware), I'd like to have JFS install-support reinstated. I've also suggested how it could be done with no impact whatsoever. However, just getting to talk to the right people and not being turned down by level1&2 staff was just far more hassle than I'm prepared to work with. /Per Jessen -- http://www.spamchek.co.uk - managed anti-spam and anti-virus solution.