Abit Siluro 64Mb [AGP] / ELSA Victory Erasor 8Mb [PCI]

Hi, Prior contacting the list I checked the SUSE SDB for availability of 3D graphics for the subj. video-cards. For the first case I didn't find anything, already "Abit" as vendor didn't return any hits; for the second either xfree nor xorg acceleration is available, because the card has a riva128 chip. Is there by change here someone, using one of the above cards with 3D? I would be glad to get your feedback, independently, which SUSE system you use... Thanks, Pelibali