On Monday 10 October 2005 06:38, nordi wrote:
houghi wrote:
I have a solution for this bug. Just turn it off by default. Problem solved. <Ducks> ;-)
People have suggested that before, and that suggestion got rejected. Have a look at bug #117676 for example.
Hi All, I'm submitting my last comments on this subject, as I've had a chance to sleep and mull the discussion over. 1. There are two competing camps, default 'on' and default 'off'. Each has precedents, facts and a rational purpose behind them, meaning there is no clear "right way" or "wrong way" when the conflict is viewed as an either/or proposition. 2. The conflict emerges as a natural consequence of the principal benefit from each side being viewed by the other as a flaw. The reality is the features are symmetrical and balanced, they represent diametrically opposed perspectives but *not* opposite goals, so the debate becomes protracted and circular, meaning it will never resolve to a clear "winner." 3. There exists a middle ground, however, a design change which effectively accommodates the two views, bringing peace and harmony back to the world. Well... at least on this topic. :-) 4. Briefly outline the advantages and disadvantages of each login arrangement wherever the choice is offered, but remain as neutral as possible in the presentation. This can be accomplished by providing a single two checkbox "<>On <>Off" control which is not preselected when the dialog appears. This allows the enduser to make a reasonably informed choice without interpreting the preset control as a "recommended" or "default" choice, thereby absolving Novell/SUSE of any moral/karmic liabilities and ensuring the basic concerns of each camp are addressed. I recognize that this shaves off a tiny fraction of the default 'on' camp's territory by putting the decision squarely back on the enduser, but any truly neutral solution is going do that. I suggest, in the interest of putting this debate to rest permanently, the solution is worth a very small compromise. Comments? I look forward to reading them but a cyclic debate, once recognized as such, is futile to pursue. regards, - Carl