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Re: [SLE] FireFox broken, is SuSE Pro becoming a test bed like Fedora?
  • From: Preston Crawford <me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 00:52:41 -0700
  • Message-id: <1114674761.7406.6.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 03:40 -0400, Allen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 09:48:17PM -0700, Preston Crawford wrote:
> > On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 22:07 -0400, Allen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:14:46PM -0700, Preston Crawford wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Kevanf1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sorry Mike but I think his problems started with a YOU update not an
> > > > > upgrade. YOU updates should really be stable.
> > > >
> > > > Indeed. This is what happened. And they should be stable.
> > > >
> > > > Preston
> > >
> > > Before this gets out of hand:
> > >
> > > Features, hardware support, and stability, are three things and none of
> > > them are related. If you want features to make it rival Windows, don't
> > > expect stability. If you want good hardware support, same thing, new
> > > hardwre can't work unless it isn't tested as much. If you spend all the
> > > time testing for bugs it doesn't get released.
> > >
> > > SUSE is the only distro onn earth that I've ever seen mix these all
> > > together without being unstable.
> > >
> > > Look at the most stable OSs in the World:
> > >
> > > BSD
> > >
> > > Solaris
> > >
> > > AIX
> > >
> > > Slackware
> > >
> > > Now when is the last time you saw any of those have flashy new features?
> > >
> > > SUSE can easily stay up, I've never had it crash and I use FTP, HTTP, and a
> > > million things on it and the box isn't even near the RAM it should have. It
> > > doesn't crash.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Firefox is a flash new browser, if you want stability instead, use Netcat.
> >
> > Oh please.
> >
> > #1 - This isn't the first time YOU has broken something recently. I had
> > it break a kernel on my once recently because the mirror was bad.
> > Ridiculous.
> >
> > #2 - Firefox is a pretty basic piece of software. I don't see why they
> > shouldn't test it before releasing it. I've been using Linux solely as a
> > home OS for over 4 years and have rarely if ever had a problem with the
> > web browser. Not on SuSE, at least.
>
> No browser is basic, if you truely believe that, quit your day job, and buy
> a big calculator. That's one of the most retarded things I've ever seen on
> this list.

Oh come on. You know what I meant. I didn't mean basic like it's simple.
I meant basic as in basic functionality to the distro. It's a basic part
of any OS these days. It's highly important, commonly used, etc.

> And that last reply you made, the guy said he didn't even update with YAST
> and you said "But it IS a SUSE problem"....*Sigh*.

Oh please.

Don't you understand what I'm trying to say? The bug is in Firefox. I
get that. But SUSE should have some level of quality control. So in so
far as they released untested and broken software it IS their problem. I
pay them $80 per release so they can bundle and provide me with solid
stable updates. If they fail to do this, that's their problem. There are
hundreds of distros that are just slapped together where I can download
the latest Firefox. Heck, I can do that on my own. But my time is
valuable, so I pay SUSE so they only drop software like Firefox into YOU
when it's stable and ready to go. If I'm doing the testing of all the
software, why should I bother using SUSE again?

Preston


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