Josphine I may sound stupid saying this but I don't know "exactly" what is a WIKKI other than it is just a bunch of inputs and opinions much like a forum. You tell me how a WIKKI should work and I will implement one within which we can all participate. But this would be JUST for LIVE CDs and DVDs and any directly related issues and would not exclude any distribution. It might be a good idea if we could get some volunteers to help build the web site portion that serves as a WIKKI, otherwise you will get an architecture that may not work well. It would obviously need to be partitioned into sections, etc. Hope this meets with your approval. TED Josephine wrote:
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 12:18 -0700, Ted Hilts wrote:
They leave out the part where you ADD files -- that is why I have to determine what is actually used as input to mkiso becuase I want to add server stuff. I may run into a problem with server stuff such as nfs and other servers. In Josephines material (further down) special software needs to be compiled into the kernel. In addition, Knoppix allows for various extensions from the DVD to the hard drive (in what is called a HOME directory) which SUSE does not allow for. In other words, once the DVD is blasted the curtain shuts on additions. What I am after is a combination "backup" and also a way of turning another machine instantly into "my installation setup for SuSE Linux 9.1". That is why I want to be able to utilize some hard drive realestate that will work with my DVD. Now this also provides a support mechanism to help others who were unsuccessful with a FULL installation (desktops and servers). This way we could learn from each others installations by examining the /etc configurations and observing the system behavior, etc. SUSE support is, quite frankly, extremely lacking in the server area and you have to BUY their Enterprise version in order to get any meaningful support. The magazine also explains how to accomplish the same thing from within Windows.
Does anyone out there know how to make SUSE do what KNOPPIX already does -- regarding a DVD utilizing some user defined amount of disk space????
i tried in the past weeks, before this thread was started, a remaster of suse's liveCD (kde, but flavour doesn't matter). Remaster, meaning my kernel, my applications, my patches in a suse system burned into a cd. I did try to follow suse's way of creating the master, but no luck. The issues that came up and not from config files, as you can import in your master fstab and shadow and passwd, but from kernel and mostly, initrd. It also seems like the master is built using a specific list of applications, and not from a harddisk installed version of suse. So modifying the cloop image or the initrd ended up in kernel panics and other strange boot errors. Suse LiveCD works faster that knoppix because it's initrd is huge (94MB compressed with cpio- never understood why use cpio and not an ext2fs and gziped initrd like most distributions use) and almost half from the distro is loaded in ram at boot time. On the other hand, knoppix has a 4MB compressed initrd. Quite a difference. I am now using the knoppix way of making a live from suse. I am in a beta phase, like using almost unmodified scripts from Knoppix cd, but already with more luck that all the time i tried building it after a suse liveCD. So my advice would be: stop thinking the suse liveCD schema. Start from a knoppix one, with knoppix initrd and kernel.
As the subject becomes even more interesting and different views might help us all in finding the best way of making liveCD-s from suse, perhaps someone is willing to open up a wikki or forum to develop there the ideas and thoughts.
Josephine