I am trying to set up vsftpd to use virtual users. Everything seems to be going OK but there is one niggle. In the instructions, the developer says: "Step 3) Set up the location of the files for the virtual users. useradd -d /home/ftpsite virtual ls -ld /home/ftpsite (which should give): drwx------ 3 virtual virtual 4096 Jul 30 00:39 /home/ftpsite We have created a user called "virtual" with a home directory "/home/ftpsite"." What I am trying to work out is where the _group_ virtual comes from (as in 3 virtual virtual ..). Has the developer omitted to mention this step and if so should I create a group called "virtual", then create the user virtual and make them a member of the group virtual? If not, what is the correct way of doing things, I wonder. When I first did this I got "2 virtual root". It's all a bit confusing. :) Fish