On Tuesday 21 December 2004 19:24, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 21 Dec 2004 20:26, Г–rn Hansen wrote:
tisdag 21 december 2004 04:56 skrev David Herman:
I would agree with Joe. The hardest thing for my wife and daughter in converting to linux has been no publisher compatable application or replacement.
If all you ever intended, was to be able to use Microsoft Office, then you shouldn't convert to linux (period). MS Publisher, is a Microsoft Product, and like all Microsoft products it is set to limitations, set by Microsoft. Microsoft has, since I remember, always increased the version of their files with every release of any of their products. Most of the upgrades, are "intended" to force the buyer to "upgrade" to a newer version ... this is their way of doing buisness.
So, if all you need is to use Microsoft products then stick to Windows. If you need to be able to roam between platforms, then Linux is an alterntive. But then you'll have to center your choices on the alternative, and not on the extreme (Microsoft). OpenOffice is an office product, that does most of what needs to be done. Surely I know, that there aren't as many "templates" in the stripped-to-the-bone version of OpenOffice, but I believe there are some templates to be had on the network, that give some options in that area.
Trying to use "win4lin", "wine", or whatever to run MS products on a different platform is ok, as long as you have casual need for it. For instance, someone at the office only has MS Word, and you need to share it ... then you tell that person, to save the file in Word 97 format, and not the "Word 2005 MS WIndows Only!" format. And you yourself, can write your data in the same format, etc. This is casual use, you don't really "need" Microsoft Office, only the ability to share files with people who have nothing BUT Microsoft Office. The moment your needs are centered on Microsoft Office only, your options are dictated by Microsoft. You don't have a choice anymore, all other products except Microsoft Windows will bork, hickup and have problems. Because that IS what MICROSOFT intended.
My "1 aur" worth, Г–rn
PS. Cents and Euro cents ... just another "detail" at who controls the EU.
Is this bloke for real or what ?.. do we have an M$ Corp employee on the list .
If someone wants to get away from M$ Corp bugware then we should be doing everything to assist NOT tell them not to bother and stay with using bugware from M$ Corp .
My advice would be can the M$ Corp bugware completely and start afresh the step to Linux is NOT insurmountable just the dambed stupid M$ punisher file format i know i have had stuff sent to me in the same and sent it back with instructions to use an more flexible file type i settled for .doc from them easy to handle .. but no good for everyone .
It is unfortunate that we have no method of opening punisher files but in all truth we propably dont not realy need one ..
Pete
-- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
Peter, while I do respect your feelings about M$, there are some points you may try to consider (the order is not by importance): 1. Flaming is NOT problem solving. 2. People come to this list to receive the most reliable advice to get their work done, or to learn from each other. 3. Sending back a file and asking a regular Windows user to convert it to something else is really unreliable, and in most cases will not work. The regular user even does not care what OS or product he/she uses. The decision is made a way before him/her. He/she is trained and uses only what is provided to him to have the work done. 4. Like it or not, we still live in M$ dominated world. Things are changing, but slow. 5. One of the reasons for (4) is that just recently the desktop have received a real attention in linux world, and it is only because of the commercial distros. 6. If you would like really to help this process to continue and to speed up, instead of putting your efforts in blaming M$ for this and that, and teaching people to ask them to convert a file from one format to another (while there is no reliable converter, unless you thing the M$ one is good ;) ), just sit and write a better converter to be included in OpenOffice, or as a standalone solution. 7. Please, really, realize that people just want their work done. And these people can not control corporate decision about what OS and software to use. The corporate world will start using linux when it's application base is mature enough (not the OS itself). Until then they will stay where they are, and their employees will use what they use today. And these employees will just ignore you as a party to deal with, if you make them more troubles instead of helping them to get their work done as they usually do. just 2c Cheers Sunny -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85