On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 09:11, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Saturday 09 Oct 2004 04:56, John Boyle wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
John,
On Friday 08 October 2004 18:15, Allen wrote:
On Friday 08 October 2004 21:09, John Boyle wrote:
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Too late - Netscape's dead. Oh, were we talking about SuSE?
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To ALL: If Netscape's dead, then what am I replying to you on? Secondly, you cannot use IE on Linux, so which is it that is dead? I wish you people that keep on lying about Netscape or Mozilla, would just go away to stay on MSFT!!! >:o
Actually, you can use IE on Linux with WINE. I've seen it.
And actually, Netscape _is_ dead. Just 'cause Netscape (i.e., AOL) puts its name on Mozilla doesn't mean it's a distinct piece of software.
Randall Schulz
To Randall Schulz et al: AOL dropped out of Mozilla/Netscape a long time ago, that is why the overal organization is called "Mozilla.org"! Why not search for that sometime before any flame wars start? Which I hope they have not, and I can say I use Netscape on both WIN98SE and SuSe Linux 9.0! I have nothing with AOL associated with it! :-D
Never mind all the argy bargy arguments folks how many have actuall committed to purchasing 9.2 in november ..?.
pete.
I buy a full version of Pro, every release (2 times year). I like Suse, cause they straddle the very fine line between the bleeding edge and stability. It's not an easy balancing act, and some releases are more problematicall than others. Here some facts as I see them: - 9.1 was the first release to include the 2.6 kernel. - 9.1 was the most problematical release in a long long time. - I have 1 production server using 9.1, and 3 using 9.0 - SuSE includes over 1000 programs preconfigured - SuSE updates these packages with security updates, for 2 years. - SuSE provides me with automatic update tools (YOU). Some things SuSE cannot do: SuSE cannot reconfigure/test every Beta and/or release of every opensource project in the world. SuSE cannot support each version indefinatetly. Now if you find SuSE too close to the bleeding edge, (the jist of this thread), you got a couple of choices: 1- Go buy SLES. That is what it is there for, stability! 2- Stay away from initial releases. 3- Use another Distro that is more conservative. If you find SuSE to conservative, you probably don't need a Distro! Now I think SuSE is doing a great Job. I think the *only* mistake they did in 9.1 was to call it <dot>1 the release is definatetly a <dot>0 release as the first with the new kernel, with all of the new kernel problems. Every thing else SuSE cleaned out with the wash. Now, what SuSE alloed me to do was install 2.6 kernel and KDE 3.2 in production which I feel is important, (since I can leave it there longer than if I had installed 2.4 and KDE 3.1). I have a client already asking about KDE 3.3! Now I realise that some people have had alot of problems with 9.1. I had enough of them my self, that is what the bleeding Edge is about. If I didn't want the problems I would have waited for the <dot>2 release, if my clients and I didn't want all the new features and advantages. IMHO SuSE has been doing a great job, is doing great job, and I hope they will continue to do so... Jerry BTW. Chalking the 9.1 release problems to the Novel buy out is really unfair. SuSE is always the first Distro out with the new kernels, and this whole situation is not new. And to say that SuSE rushed it is also unfair, 9.0 was supposed have the 2.6 kernel, but SuSE decided it had too many problems and released 9.0 with a 2.4 kernel, and an experimental 2.6 kernel. (this is where the <dot>0 went).
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