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Re: [SLE] new v9.2 is out
  • From: Allen <gorebofh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:35:44 -0400
  • Message-id: <20041012173544.GA6699@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 11:42:02AM -0500, Danny Sauer wrote:
> John wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] new v9.2 is out' on Fri, Oct 08 at 20:08:
> > Danny Sauer wrote:
> > >Jim wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] new v9.2 is out' on Fri, Oct 08 at 14:06:
> > >[...]
> > >
> > >>I understand that a new kernel is difficult and risky to introduce. On
> > >>the other hand, I've heard enough credible (to me anyway) stories that
> > >>9.1 was pushed to release before it was really stable.
> > >>
> > >>I hope if that problem exists, that it is fixed before a fine product's
> > >>name is tarnished.
> > >
> > >Too late - Netscape's dead. Oh, were we talking about SuSE?
> > >
> > >--Danny, noting what happened to Netscape *again*, just in case the SuSE
> > >folks are listening.
> > >
> > To ALL: If Netscape's dead, then what am I replying to you on? Secondly,
> > you cannot use IE on Linux, so which is it that is dead? I wish you
> > people that keep on lying about Netscape or Mozilla, would just go away
> > to stay on MSFT!!! >:o
>
> In the news: AOL building new browser based on IE. AOL owns Netscape, FYI,
> and Netscape is just a theme on top of Mozilla 1.7.
>
> Also of note, Mozilla is not Netscape. Firefox is not Netscape. While
> it's true that the Mozilla effort was originally founded by Netscape in
> 1998, the Mozilla Foundation was established in July 2003 with *support*
> from AOL's Netscpe devision. The gecko rendering engine, which was the
> heart of the Netscape-branded browsers, is a project of the Mozilla
> Foundation. Sure, Netscape The Company does occasionally take an open
> source browser, stick a skin on and tie AIM in - but they're dead as
> far as anyone realistic is concerned. They're not making a browser or
> providing competition to IE, they're making a skin for Mozilla.


>From watching Revolution OS, it seems too me Netscape was the reason there was a Mozilla. Mozilla was the code name for their browser back in the day before I had a computer, and they open sourced it, and projects like Mozilla.org and things like that were started. Of course that was just from me watching them on a movie.

>
> Now, Firefox (and Mozilla, to a lesser extent) is finally presenting a
> real competitor to IE. They are not Netscape, though. They are products
> of the Mozilla Foundation. The Mozilla Foundation is an independent
> organization, incorporated in CA as a not-for-profit. Netscape is a
> company that almost killed themselves by releasing a new browser a few
> months before it was good enough to *actually* release to the public.
>
> Do bear in mind the separation bewteen Mozilla and Netscape before lumping
> them together, eh?
>
> I'll concede that the Netscape Network isn't dead, though. That's just
> because all of those AOL, Compuserve, and AIM users automatically have
> accounts, though. :) Netscape Communicator is even less of a contender
> than Opera, though, despite the 9 people who use those two browsers. It's
> effectively dead.
>
> --Danny, who was at UIUC (home of NCSA, home of Mosaic) when the graphical
> web browser was essentially invented...

Mosaic.... That thing Microsoft stole and made into IE.

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