i have just been crusing the various suse sites and found this at the bottom of the Swiss site .. ©2004 Atena Distribution - Letztmals aktualisiert 23.10.2004 Optimiert für Microsoft Internet Explorer und Netscape Version 6 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now this is extracting the micheal big time it seems to be the only one as well Pete. -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..