On Tuesday 26 October 2004 08:02, Mike McMullin wrote:
On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 19:02, BandiPat wrote:
On Monday 25 October 2004 03:52 pm, Charles McColm wrote:
One of the reasons I've permanently switched from Red Hat (which I've used daily since 7.1) is the embedded support for mp3s. I got tired of loading the mp3 rpms every time there was a new release. SuSE 9.1 also happens to run really nicely on my notebook, but this crippled Xine is even worse than what RH did with XMMS - at I could download a rpm to get it running.
I could not agree more, With redhat you download on e file, xmms-mp3 with suse you have uninstall reinstall plenty just so that you can watch a DVD,
I've tried getting libdvdcss to run under both Fedora and S.u.S.E. and the Fedora procedure was much simpler because of the uncrippled Xine. The Pacman resource is a great one, but some of the packages that particular version depends on seem to be dated (curl) and conflict with other packages.
Yip had the same experience!
It seems strange that Novell would crippled Xine, yet include support for mp3s.
I heard from a local linux developer who is building his own distro, that if any linux distro just signs an agreement, just like microsoft did, with Sony that ensures that they will not try reverse engineering the software and that the user must accept a license agreement for the software then they are allowed to include support it in the distro. This is because Sony hold the patents to DVD encryption. I could be wrong and would like to know the truth of the matter. The same agreement has been offered by Nvidia. and apparently thsi guy is flying to the states to Nvidia next month. I can't see what the problem is if this guy can do it! May be a Suse representative could post a reply stating the fact as to why Suse crippled the Xine player to the point that you will never get a DVD to play in it.
I wish DVD manufacturers would get their heads out of the sand and start looking at a more open paradigm - imagine the advances possible.
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Charles, SuSE's xine is not actually crippled, in the sense you seem to be putting it, but it won't play DVDs or some other files, like .wma or newer .mov until you add those codecs.
The files needed for that are few and should not be producing any conflicts. You may be getting some dependencies due to not having all the files you need to complete your task, but no conflicts. Everything is available easily from Packman's site and should only be a matter of you downloading and updating/installing those.
Otherwise, xine works just great for many files already, .mpg, mp3, ogg, .mpeg, some .mov, realplayer, etc. Crippled software doesn't do those things, but if you are having problems with the most simple files, you might want to look elsewhere for your answers to the problem.
I tend to agree with xine, I like it. I did notice one problem getting the Win32 codecs from the packman site for 9.1, and that was they have a signature problem that neither rpm nor Yast like.
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