I've written a lot of strange problem emails since I got 9.0. This stuff is really getting to me. It's not just on one system, and it's stuff too strange to be a 'normal' distro problem. I just re-installed 9.0 on my HP zd7260 after having the nvidia problems. I wiped my install and started fresh. Firsttime in, I went in as my normal user. I tried to start yast and got the login prompt. My standard root password didn't work. I loaded the rescue system and edited out the password in /etc/shadow (/mnt/etc/shadow). I also edited inittab to stop at level 3. I then rebooted and root worked without a password. I changed the password to my 'normal' one. Then I logged in as my user. Yast and su from a shell both refused my root password. I logged out, and back in as root from run-level 3. The password worked there. Then I did a startx from root and changed my password (again to the normal one). Then I logged out. At level 3, my root password was bad again. This is all from a fresh install. I've done nothing else to the system. Any idea of what's going on???? -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.